BMW Overtakes Tesla in European EV Sales for First Time

Post by makeitdouble » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 4:12 AM UTC

serial_dev wrote: post #131

Mistletoe wrote: post #118

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We cancelled ours when he tweeted and insinuated there were valid reasons for someone sneaking into the Pelosi house and hitting her husband in the head with a hammer. It would have been our second Tesla purchase and now we have none. Could not imagine being associated with Elon in any way and certainly not in the car I drive around.

The article is about European sales though. I know some European people are obsessed with American politics as if there was nothing worth discussing that's European, but the number of people who knows and cares about whatever happened at Nancy Pelosi's house, then knows what Elon had to say about that, then deciding it's so egregious that they can't buy a Tesla anymore it's probably single digits.

Post by peutetre » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 4:42 AM UTC

pyinstallwoes wrote: post #123

two_handfuls wrote: post #22

The Tesla brand has suffered enormously due to the actions of its owner.

Please show the evidence of how it has suffered

Post by petre » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 4:57 AM UTC

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Yes, Tesla's execution has been really terrible. There's some really good tech inside their cars, but the direction of which cars to make, when, and the investments in non-car tech, the over-promising of "Full Self Driving," etc. All huge detractors. There's also the CEO, who has a huge public profile, deciding to become extremely political, which smart CEOs usually avoid doing because it has little potential to help…

> There's also the CEO, who has a huge public profile, deciding to become extremely political, which smart CEOs usually avoid doing because it has little potential to help and lots of potential to hurt. I don’t know about this. Virtually all CEOs of tech companies bent over backwards to support BLM and many donated tens of millions to those BLM affiliated organizations - many of whom turned out to be grifters. But if…

Post by otterley » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 5:04 AM UTC

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #188

otterley wrote: post #173

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> 70% said it didn't, so he bought it. 70% of his followers and/or who saw the poll said it didn't. Hardly a valid survey by any best practice among pollsters.

The poll was reposted by tens of thousands of other people and more than two million people voted. Also, this was before he bought the site or made unfriends with Democrats and his followers skew disproportionately to electric car enthusiasts and Star Trek fans. It's not exactly a poll of Fox News viewers.

Post by foobazgt » Sat, Aug 24, 2024, 5:25 AM UTC

amluto wrote: post #250

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Huh? The model 3 didn't come out until 2017 and the model Y came out in 2020. That's literally just four years ago - not 2012. I own a 2019 model 3 and will be replacing it with a 2024. In those 5 years, it's accumulated a bunch of improvements. I don't exactly have a changelog to work with, but here's what I can think of off the top of my head: - more powerful rear motor, 10% faster 0-60, breaking 10s quarter mile -…

With that “triple pane glass” (which I’m pretty sure is laminated glass, not insulated glass), keep in mind a little design issue common to every Tesla ever made: the complete lack of any non-electrical way to open a door from outside. If there’s an electrical failure and someone needs rescuing from the car at all quickly, one needs to break a window. If all the window glass is laminated, this is not so easy. There a…

  - after ignoring the persistent warning you had days in advance that the 12v is dying
  - you lose power in the exact few seconds between
    - first securing every vehicle door
    - and then proceeding to open any other door
  - and there's another passenger inside
  - and they are also incapable of operating a door

  - You don't have all the accidental 12v drains that happen in other vehicles (lights, accessories, etc... accidentally left running)
  - The 12v is constantly replenished from the main battery, rather than a more unreliable alternator