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I was seriously considering a Model X until Mr. Musk decided to open up on his political ideology..
This attitude reads to me like: only those who agree with you deserve a place in our economy and society.
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They’ve been in the BEV market for a bit. Not long after the first Tesla Model S was released, BMW released the i3. That one’s since been discontinued but they have at least 8 other BMW i models on the market.
The i3 was such a great city car, well ahead of its time. Such a shame that they have apparently abandoned the EV design ethos embodied in that car (and that car alone) in favour of bloated luxo-barges. Tell me that your EV strategy is about brand greenwashing without telling me it’s about brand greenwashing. They seem to be really focused on chasing the Boomer demographic. I’m a happy former customer (twice over) bu…
Nevertheless, I appreciate the effort. And the i4 looks (and drives) sweet.
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I was seriously considering a Model X until Mr. Musk decided to open up on his political ideology..
This attitude reads to me like: only those who agree with you deserve a place in our economy and society.
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> Companies do this all the time though. The trade off is, of course, that you get more support from customers the other side If by "do this all the time" - you mean pander towards a specific affinity group, then I agree. Patagonia's politics are well known. What's less common is for CEOs to reverse polarity and publicly declare loyalty to a party in opposition of the products alleged mission.
> What's less common is for CEOs to reverse polarity and publicly declare loyalty to a party in opposition of the products alleged mission. Take at a look at the list of US states by vehicles per capita or vehicle miles driven per capita. Red states at the top. If you're trying to get people to buy electric cars and stop burning oil, those are the ones you need to convince.
Aside: do you believe that Elon's actions are motivated by the desire to reduce gas emissions in red states, or is this more of a thought experiment? My hot take is that his frustrations with Covid lockdowns in California kicked his animus toward Democratic party politicians into high gear.
The Tesla brand has suffered enormously due to the actions of its owner.
What I find funny is that Teslas high profile investors repeatedly and completely dismiss this effect as being insignificant, but anecdotally I do think it’s a large portion of Tesla’s owners.
It’s also not like he has traded one customer base for another. The conservatives he’s trying to cozy up to seem just as anti-EV as ever.
The Tesla brand has suffered enormously due to the actions of its owner.
I was a really long term shareholder in Tesla. Like back when the Oatmeal made that famous Tesla comic strip. When he started calling people pedophiles on the internet and when I saw the board whose fiduciary duty is to keep the CEO in check do nothing, I exited my entire position. It is an absolute failure of the board that no one questions his dumb decisions of pandering to the right to save some taxes, when the ma…
TSLA price today: $232.22
bad move
The Tesla brand has suffered enormously due to the actions of its owner.
I think it has more to do with Tesla being the modern EV pioneer. They were the only game it town for a while, and had the best charging network. However, there have been a lot of stories about build quality issues for years. As the established automaker move into the market and charging is standardized, it would stand to reason that Tesla would suffer, as people see they can get higher build quality from experienced…
So very popular!
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> Excluding a part of the population for no practical reason at all is bad business. But when the politics becomes extremist, that share becomes huge, and it becomes disastrous business. Companies do this all the time though. The trade off is, of course, that you get more support from customers the other side. > But the guy's principles is "big business is right"... I'm not sure what he wants to achieve. This is not…
> 70% said it didn't, so he bought it. 70% of his followers and/or who saw the poll said it didn't. Hardly a valid survey by any best practice among pollsters.
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This attitude reads to me like: only those who agree with you deserve a place in our economy and society.
Funny, it reads to me like: my money should go where I see fit.
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Yes, Tesla's execution has been really terrible. There's some really good tech inside their cars, but the direction of which cars to make, when, and the investments in non-car tech, the over-promising of "Full Self Driving," etc. All huge detractors. There's also the CEO, who has a huge public profile, deciding to become extremely political, which smart CEOs usually avoid doing because it has little potential to help…
> Tesla has massively benefited from subsidies to EVs, but is alienating the political party that has enabled all of that. Well, he's expecting some reciprocity from the next administration for all his help, and Trump has said openly that he will support EVs as a consequence of Elon's strong support.