It is very telling that half a dozen states have managed to pass GDPR-like laws, and at the Federal level we have nothing but inaction. The IAPP maintains a good state-by-state tracker. https://iapp.org/resources/article/us-state-privacy-legislat...
84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
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Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#92On the one hand, it is a clear indication that citizen's wishes are ignored. On the other, US is supposed to be a republic and politicians are supposed to be smarter than to give in to the mob, who will always vote itself whatever it currently wants. The problem is that while 84% ( I am taking that number at face value for the time being ) say they want stronger privacy laws in aggregate, as individuals they differ o…
And yet in other countries when Facebook was forced to give users a choice of pay for the service or accept targeted advertising, people chose to keep their free service. The ad tier of services like Hulu makes more than the paid tier.
It seems like the "give users a choice" part is the important part here. Most of use that have almost no social media footprint are still being tracked and targeted with ads.
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#93This problem of “representatives” failing to represent their constituents, let alone their supporters, was the impetus for me to develop my most recent political advocacy.
I call it “expand the powers of justice by jury”.
Essentially, bills in congress will be litigated by representatives, in front of a judge, for a jury, and the jury ultimately casts the vote either for or against the proposed legislation.
I think this would resolve many of the issues that we are seeing in contemporary politics; mainly the negative effects of the influence of money.
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#94This problem of “representatives” failing to represent their constituents, let alone their supporters, was the impetus for me to develop my most recent political advocacy. I call it “expand the powers of justice by jury”. Essentially, bills in congress will be litigated by representatives, in front of a judge, for a jury, and the jury ultimately casts the vote either for or against the proposed legislation. I think t…
Why would jurors be harder to buy than career politicians? Especially when there are probably no career consequences for a juror if such a scheme found out.
The other obvious problem is jury selection. You can basically choose the outcome by selecting the "right" jury.
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#95This problem of “representatives” failing to represent their constituents, let alone their supporters, was the impetus for me to develop my most recent political advocacy. I call it “expand the powers of justice by jury”. Essentially, bills in congress will be litigated by representatives, in front of a judge, for a jury, and the jury ultimately casts the vote either for or against the proposed legislation. I think t…
Why would jurors be harder to buy than career politicians? Especially when there are probably no career consequences for a juror if such a scheme found out. The other obvious problem is jury selection. You can basically choose the outcome by selecting the "right" jury.
> Why would jurors be harder to buy than career politicians?
Because the juries are selected from random pools.
Are you truly sincere in your question regarding the ability to buy off career politicians vs random peers?
Are you aware of jury tampering laws?
> The other obvious problem is jury selection. You can basically choose the outcome by selecting the "right" jury.
I was unaware you are so passionate about reforming the current jury system.
What groups are you currently working with to improve the existing system?
I can agree there are flaws in the current system but rather than throwing my hands up in defeat I think such problems can be addressed.
How would you better address the issue from the linked article?
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
One could say that Norway's flagship corporation has a horrible business model. The Norwegians have never held a referendum whether they should stop drilling , but they are so environmentally conscious that it's not unlikely. Should Norway stop drilling and let its sovereign fund collapse (along with the value of many global companies where it invests)? Is there any State that is purely moral?
What? I'm Norwegian and very surprised at every assertion here. Not unlikely? It has never been seriously discussed (e.g. because others would simply increase production to compensate). The fund would collapse? Why?
It was a hypothetical scenario. It is true that most of the world considers Norwegians as very enviromentally forward people. If you assert that norwegians would not vote give up drilling , then that means they are more sensible than most.
The fund wouldn't collapse, but would be severely hit , and would be entirely dependent on the valuations of tech companies over decades.
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
What? I'm Norwegian and very surprised at every assertion here. Not unlikely? It has never been seriously discussed (e.g. because others would simply increase production to compensate). The fund would collapse? Why?
It was a hypothetical scenario. It is true that most of the world considers Norwegians as very enviromentally forward people. If you assert that norwegians would not vote give up drilling , then that means they are more sensible than most. The fund wouldn't collapse, but would be severely hit , and would be entirely dependent on the valuations of tech companies over decades.
A campaign to stop drilling would need to answer questions about the likely effect, not just about the intention. Since OPEC has cut production many times in the past 50 years, and generally other producers have increased their production to fill the void, what do you think the likely effect would be?
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#98The real truth is that strong privacy laws would cause economic harm to flagship corporations. That would have a ripple effect on the economy as those corporations are responsible for thousands of high-paying jobs. The elected representatives know that people care more about the economy (specifically what's in their wallets) than about privacy.
> The real truth is that strong privacy laws would cause economic harm to flagship corporations. The real truth is that flagship corporations think this will happen. They seem to believe that tracking users is the only way to deliver ads efficiently. It's not, and there are other ways to do that, such as displaying tags in environments devoted to a given topic. But this would imply a change, and why change if you can…
> > The real truth is that strong privacy laws would cause economic harm to flagship corporations.
> The real truth is that flagship corporations think this will happen.
The real truth is that flagship corporations want everyone else to believe this will happen. They want to do whatever they feel like unopposed, and what better way to accomplish that than making everyone think what’s best for themselves is to let the company do exactly what it wants.
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#99This problem of “representatives” failing to represent their constituents, let alone their supporters, was the impetus for me to develop my most recent political advocacy. I call it “expand the powers of justice by jury”. Essentially, bills in congress will be litigated by representatives, in front of a judge, for a jury, and the jury ultimately casts the vote either for or against the proposed legislation. I think t…
Why would jurors be harder to buy than career politicians? Especially when there are probably no career consequences for a juror if such a scheme found out. The other obvious problem is jury selection. You can basically choose the outcome by selecting the "right" jury.
Here’s a clip of Jon Stewart laying it out for you:
@11:00 > “And that, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, is why we need courts. Whatever flaws the American justice system has, and they are legion, especially for non billionaire former presidents, it does appear to be the last place where you can’t just say whatever the fuck you want regardless of reality.”
That’s the energy I want to bring to congress.
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was a hypothetical scenario. It is true that most of the world considers Norwegians as very enviromentally forward people. If you assert that norwegians would not vote give up drilling , then that means they are more sensible than most. The fund wouldn't collapse, but would be severely hit , and would be entirely dependent on the valuations of tech companies over decades.
A campaign to stop drilling would need to answer questions about the likely effect, not just about the intention. Since OPEC has cut production many times in the past 50 years, and generally other producers have increased their production to fill the void, what do you think the likely effect would be?
It doesn't matter because in virtue-politics like the OP post, consequences don't really matter . That's e.g. how germany found itself stuck in a pipeline-shaped hole. It may be that norwegians are not as moral as they are portrayed often (e.g. https://branko2f7.substack.com/p/is-norway-the-new-east-indi...). In any case, i used the Fund to make a hypothetical argument that doesn't need to match with reality.