84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
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Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#2In a party based assembly(UK, Canada) the party leader tells each party member how to vote = the party line. Members can not vote against the party = out.
In the US assembly(Congress and Senate) each members votes as he/she wishes. In all houses the votes(hands) are visible.
This turns a vote into a currency. A lobbyist can see he gets what he has paid for and the 'bag' is passed.
Every US voter has what both the Senate and Congress do not have = a secret ballot. Why? = $$$
How to fix = 2 votes, a secret ballot AND a show of hands, the secret ballot carries. There is no longer a cause/effect monetisation link. The lobbyist will see his paid for vote by show of hands pass, but lose by secret ballot = fully deniable as a member can say is was not me that wavered.
Ever hear the squeals of hundreds of stuck pigs? That will happen. I wonder if the Supreme Court can interpret the current laws to ensure a secret ballot?
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#3In a party based assembly(UK, Canada) the party leader tells each party member how to vote = the party line. Members can not vote against the party = out. In the US assembly(Congress and Senate) each members votes as he/she wishes. In all houses the votes(hands) are visible. This turns a vote into a currency. A lobbyist can see he gets what he has paid for and the 'bag' is passed. Every US voter has what both the Sen…
Why wouldn't a congress person in this instance do the opposite? Give a show of hand for sake of TV and voters. Say they voted one way, but then vote the way they might be lobbied/influenced to? The public votes of congress people is frequently a campaign talking issue by virtue of opponents lambasting each other's vote records. How would secret ballots in congress have anything but the opposite effect of what you intend?
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#4In a party based assembly(UK, Canada) the party leader tells each party member how to vote = the party line. Members can not vote against the party = out. In the US assembly(Congress and Senate) each members votes as he/she wishes. In all houses the votes(hands) are visible. This turns a vote into a currency. A lobbyist can see he gets what he has paid for and the 'bag' is passed. Every US voter has what both the Sen…
" In a party based assembly(UK, Canada) the party leader tells each party member how to vote = the party line. Members can not vote against the party = out. I " Im not sure about UK and Canada, but the general statement is plainly wrong.
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#5In a party based assembly(UK, Canada) the party leader tells each party member how to vote = the party line. Members can not vote against the party = out. In the US assembly(Congress and Senate) each members votes as he/she wishes. In all houses the votes(hands) are visible. This turns a vote into a currency. A lobbyist can see he gets what he has paid for and the 'bag' is passed. Every US voter has what both the Sen…
This would break the trust in voting. People want to know how someone voted if they can lie to their constituents on how they voted we will lose faith in democracy. Ban lobbying is the solution.
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#6In a party based assembly(UK, Canada) the party leader tells each party member how to vote = the party line. Members can not vote against the party = out. In the US assembly(Congress and Senate) each members votes as he/she wishes. In all houses the votes(hands) are visible. This turns a vote into a currency. A lobbyist can see he gets what he has paid for and the 'bag' is passed. Every US voter has what both the Sen…
Ideally, your representative's ballot should be open, so you know they are representing your concerns, not their own. So no, absolutely not. I do not want my representative voting secretly. Focus on fixing the corrupting influence of money instead.
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#7The real truth is that strong privacy laws would cause economic harm to flagship corporations. That would have a ripple effect on the economy as those corporations are responsible for thousands of high-paying jobs. The elected representatives know that people care more about the economy (specifically what's in their wallets) than about privacy.
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
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Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#9The real truth is that strong privacy laws would cause economic harm to flagship corporations. That would have a ripple effect on the economy as those corporations are responsible for thousands of high-paying jobs. The elected representatives know that people care more about the economy (specifically what's in their wallets) than about privacy.
Privacy has minimal overall economic impact because of the zero sum nature of advertising. Specific companies get harmed, but advertisers don’t suddenly have less money if advertising is less targeted. Net result that money is simply going to support different jobs.
Similarly with more/less efficient advertising consumers have just as much money so total spending stays the same, so the only change is which companies capture it.
Re: 84% want stronger online privacy laws, but Congress's corruption stalls progress
#10In a party based assembly(UK, Canada) the party leader tells each party member how to vote = the party line. Members can not vote against the party = out. In the US assembly(Congress and Senate) each members votes as he/she wishes. In all houses the votes(hands) are visible. This turns a vote into a currency. A lobbyist can see he gets what he has paid for and the 'bag' is passed. Every US voter has what both the Sen…
It's unclear to me what value the public vote would add in the system you propose. What's the point of raising hands if it doesn't matter in the least anyway?