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Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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I don't understand the point of straws. Can't you just use your mouth?

You missed the big question: why is a CEO not only not moving to the HQ city, but taking a private jet every couple of weeks instead?

Someone needs to make a decision to raise the starbucks coffee prices 2x. Finally, here's the actual reason. No one can blame him: his commute is really long! And someone will pay for it. /S

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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There are so few lords, it doesn't make sense for them to change their livestyles. But we peasants are numerous, so we are the ones who must suffer austerity and reduce our standard of living. That's why it's good for these rich people to fly around in private jets to attend conferences about the virtue of making common folks eat bugs and walk everywhere.

Walking everywhere is great if you are able bodied and live in a place that is even halfway designed for it.

Having to walk limits your employment opportunities, particularly if you're not able to just pick up your life and move homes. It also limits which stores and other businesses you're able to reach; less competition means you end up paying more for goods and services. If you're a yuppy living this lifestyle by choice, able to change apartments on a whim and rent a car whenever you need to go to costco and able to shrug off higher prices in local shops anyway, then it's all good. But for the average member of the working class, quite possibly with a mortgage and kids in school, being forced into this kind of rootless urban pedestrian lifestyle is a raw deal.

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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That's a very big "given" with no evidence. ESG statements are the sort of thing that should be regarded with extreme skepticism, as are carbon offsets.

Personally, my biggest concerns are environmental impact and a waste of money that could have been used in many other ways (lower product prices, improve products, increase employee compensation etc). I have no reason to doubt that the new CEO deserves his compensation package but we don't deserve all those emissions in our environment. And I am sure many employees deserve a few extra dollars per hour for their hard…

I doubt that any person needs a compensation package worth tens of millions of dollars per year.

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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I guess their stock price is doing well, but have you been to a Chipotle lately? The stores here are understaffed and food quality seems to have gone down from what I remember from a decade ago when I went there frequently.

> I guess their stock price is doing well Yep. Went from $200 to a height of $3000 under Niccols before they initiated a stock split. That's the job of a CEO at this size of an organization. Starbucks and most other restaurant companies are majority owned by larger funds, and Elliot Investment Management is one of the major shareholders in SBUX now. I agree with you about the degradation of Chipotle's burritos, but f…

So this company should collapse.

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Is the McDonald's of coffee. Why do people go there at all

Because the local organic free-range kenyan pour-over place that serves me coffee in a biodegradable urn along with a kale-based "eco brownie" and some indie hip-hop playing at volume 11 doesn't have a drive-thru, obvs :)

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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This reminded me of Pascal Husting, a director of Greenpeace (!) who commuted from Luxembourg to Amsterdam by flying up and down several times a month. It completely soured my opinion of Greenpeace, and I've avoided donating ever since. I just looked up the aftermath, and it turns he stopped flying his commute in 2014, and switched to the train in response to the criticism. It's interesting that a poorly judged actio…

Which makes you wonder, in what kind of world do those people live to not see the irony of being the Greenpeace CEO and traveling several times a month by using a airplane?

Yeah just like this here, except this guy will travel 3200km 3 times a week!

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Exactly. We're all expected to suffer the inconvenience of soggy straws to offset this guys near daily commute. And it's not just this. Near all elites have unsustainable lifestyles that we are expected to offset by changing our daily habits.

Private jets should be required to burn biofuels or purchase carbon offsets. If you can afford a private jet, you can easily afford to make it carbon neutral.

Biofuel-fueled jets aren't carbon neutral.

The building of the jets, the material extraction, the maintenance, the work around growing the fuels, the processing, the transportation, most of that is not fully sustainable.

It's only "less bad" for the climate crisis, not better. Definitely not perfect.

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Taxes on jet fuel for private usage should be 3x higher too. It's not real money to these folks; I doubt he'd even notice.

Insanely, the Chicago Convention of 1944 exempts international flights from any fuel tax. https://www.icao.int/publications/pages/doc7300.aspx Various attempts to work round this without rewriting the convention have been discussed, e.g. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn00... but I don't think they've got anywhere. The US _might_ be able to tax fuel on domestic flights, but that would result…

Part of this has a decent reason: If fuel is much cheaper in e.g. Dubai, airlines will chock their planes full of fuel instead of the optimised amount, leading to overburning of fuel due to excessive transportation of it.

And the opposite, they will skimp on fuel going inbound to there. Of course fuel qty is the captain's decision, however a lot of airlines already pressure those. As one example Ryanair had a "list of shame" of captains bringing too much safety fuel in their eyes.

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