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Mourning and moving on: rituals for leaving a career (2014)

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Re: Mourning and moving on: rituals for leaving a career (2014)

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> We create meaning around the stress and soften transitions with rituals and rites of passage. I graduated into the height of the pandemic, so I never had a graduation ceremony. Instead, they played a shitty video presentation over Zoom and my parents cracked open a beer and watched it on TV. By the time I got invited back for a ceremony, I had already moved hundreds of miles away from my university. Obviously, I tu…

I don't regret skipping college graduation and I barely remember high school graduation I do regret that I didn't join any clubs in college until my last semester, and that I didn't make the kind of friendships I wanted

One of the clubs I belonged to (film committee) is pretty much the only college group I stay in touch with.

Re: Mourning and moving on: rituals for leaving a career (2014)

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Not to highjack this topic, but she was recommended (like to many others of you no doubt) quite a bit in my Youtube feeds over the last few months; and the first few videos I watched seemed to be solid enough. Yet as I watched a few more, I couldn't shake the feeling that she's so out of left field that she's not just a 'quirky renegade' anymore, but rather a quack who dresses up her quackery with just enough 'real'…

I've seen similar reactions and I can't help but think she's intentionally communicating provocatively to make people engage their brains. You shouldn't just "take her seriously", you should take what she says *critically*. Hear the information and opinions, then decide for yourself whether to accept them.

Her channel has strayed far beyond the topics she has credibility in. A physics academic talking about AI, sociology, and politics… why should I care? Even of the physics topics that she does cover it’s all “pop-sci” news coverage stuff, she’s not even using her actual depth of knowledge to make videos that are different than the layman takes from dozens of other YouTubers.

Someone speaking provocatively and authoritatively on topics they don’t have credibility in is where you should think critically and turn it off.

Re: Mourning and moving on: rituals for leaving a career (2014)

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I've seen similar reactions and I can't help but think she's intentionally communicating provocatively to make people engage their brains. You shouldn't just "take her seriously", you should take what she says *critically*. Hear the information and opinions, then decide for yourself whether to accept them.

> Hear the information and opinions, then decide for yourself whether to accept them. This sounds awfully similar to the “do your own research” defense that is often used as a cop-out disclaimer for quackery topics. When someone presents themselves as an expert on a topic and invests a lot of time into making convincing videos about their beliefs, defending them with a “do your own research” feels like a tacit admiss…

No, it sounds like he is promoting hearing somebody out and thinking for yourself if they are to be trusted.

Re: Mourning and moving on: rituals for leaving a career (2014)

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> We create meaning around the stress and soften transitions with rituals and rites of passage. I graduated into the height of the pandemic, so I never had a graduation ceremony. Instead, they played a shitty video presentation over Zoom and my parents cracked open a beer and watched it on TV. By the time I got invited back for a ceremony, I had already moved hundreds of miles away from my university. Obviously, I tu…

I don't regret skipping college graduation and I barely remember high school graduation I do regret that I didn't join any clubs in college until my last semester, and that I didn't make the kind of friendships I wanted

I didn't join many clubs when I was in university (in Germany). But for my first job I lived in Cambridge, and just attended clubs at the local university over there, and they mostly just let me in.

I have particularly fond memories of the Diplomacy club: https://www.cambridgesu.co.uk/organisation/7831/

Re: Mourning and moving on: rituals for leaving a career (2014)

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to highjack this topic, but she was recommended (like to many others of you no doubt) quite a bit in my Youtube feeds over the last few months; and the first few videos I watched seemed to be solid enough. Yet as I watched a few more, I couldn't shake the feeling that she's so out of left field that she's not just a 'quirky renegade' anymore, but rather a quack who dresses up her quackery with just enough 'real'…

I'm not a physicist so I can't answer that question, though personally I trust in her expertise and really loved her book Lost in Math, but many of her most recent videos and tweets are not about physics at all but instead about nuclear power, capitalism, climate change, not having children, trans athletes, AI and so forth. The lure of punditry...

I tend to disagree with her on superdeterminism. See eg https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=6215

Re: Mourning and moving on: rituals for leaving a career (2014)

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to highjack this topic, but she was recommended (like to many others of you no doubt) quite a bit in my Youtube feeds over the last few months; and the first few videos I watched seemed to be solid enough. Yet as I watched a few more, I couldn't shake the feeling that she's so out of left field that she's not just a 'quirky renegade' anymore, but rather a quack who dresses up her quackery with just enough 'real'…

As an expert in at least some of the things Sabine makes videos about (string theory), Sabine is a contrarian who, if you are not otherwise an expert on what she is talking about, it would be best to avoid. Sabine, like many contrarians, takes advantage of the fact that there are smart and convincing criticisms of many mainstream ideas, and she does her best to rely on those criticisms. However like all contrarians s…

For superdeterminism, see eg https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=6215

Re: Mourning and moving on: rituals for leaving a career (2014)

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Holding a wake for one’s career and inviting people strikes me ad incredibly narcissistic.

I don’t agree. It’s obviously not a “real” wake, just something for friends to hang out and show support. And switching careers often means moving to a different city, so it would be nice to say goodbye to friends who won’t be seen for years (or forever).

I’ve been to a couple “deportation parties” for friends who couldn’t get their visas renewed, and it’s sort of the same thing. Mostly lighthearted but a slight somber undertone.

Re: Mourning and moving on: rituals for leaving a career (2014)

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> We create meaning around the stress and soften transitions with rituals and rites of passage. I graduated into the height of the pandemic, so I never had a graduation ceremony. Instead, they played a shitty video presentation over Zoom and my parents cracked open a beer and watched it on TV. By the time I got invited back for a ceremony, I had already moved hundreds of miles away from my university. Obviously, I tu…

Ironically, several of my friends and I got COVID at our delayed graduation ceremony.

And they did multiple years of graduations at once, which made it exceptionally long. By the midway point even the professors onstage in their regalia were all scrolling on their phones.

I think you made the right choice!

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