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Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Post by bArray »

lupusreal wrote: post #11
bArray wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. We're all expected to suffer the inconvenience of soggy straws to offset this guys near daily commute. And it's not just this. Near all elites have unsustainable lifestyles that we are expected to offset by changing our daily habits.

There are so few lords, it doesn't make sense for them to change their livestyles. But we peasants are numerous, so we are the ones who must suffer austerity and reduce our standard of living. That's why it's good for these rich people to fly around in private jets to attend conferences about the virtue of making common folks eat bugs and walk everywhere.

This isn't exaggeration either [1], 300+ jets to a climate meeting discussing how they will restrictively control our lives to reduce emissions. The people proposing these rules are unwilling to change their lifestyle to help the environment, meanwhile your neighbour Joe Bloggs drives his car because he has to get to work to pay for all of these green taxes, which he gets more tax for because he can't afford an electric car.

[1] https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2023/dec/opinion-why-are-people-s...

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

ionwake wrote: post #23
shiroiushi wrote: post #12

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The guy's clueless, but to be fair to him, I just looked up the travel time between Luxembourg and Amsterdam by train and it's around 7.5 hours, so I can see why he wouldn't want to travel that way when a plane is much faster. Even traveling that distance by car is faster! (~4.5h) Honestly, that kind of travel time by train is just shameful. Meanwhile, just over the border, traveling between various mid-size German c…

Compare a graduate, wearing a suit, walking around streets in the summer, trying to get work at any company that will hire him for programming, then any cafe that will just let him serve drinks, and still not get hired. Compare this smart kid, who might have not got a perfect grade due to unforeseen circumstances, smart , intelligent, willing to do anything, for a job that pays $5 an hour in his field. Compare this 2…

I mean if you dig into any of these "non-profits"/NGOs the behavior seems entirely par for the course and it's more expected that they be filled with people like that.

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Post by harha »

maxehmookau wrote: post #18
scarab92 wrote: post #10

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Private jets should be required to burn biofuels or purchase carbon offsets. If you can afford a private jet, you can easily afford to make it carbon neutral.

Taxes on jet fuel for private usage should be 3x higher too. It's not real money to these folks; I doubt he'd even notice.

If you consider the per seat cost compared to commercial, I don’t think making it a bit more expensive will move the needle.

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Post by jbaber »

bdjsiqoocwk wrote: post #21
seydor wrote: post #3

i bet he will ban plastic straws to compensate

I don't understand the point of straws. Can't you just use your mouth?

I prefer drinking straight from a cup.

Straws are the answer to drinking through a lid, which is the real necessity for takeout restaurants. Costco figured this out with a self-sealing flap on the lid you can sip from.

That said, it's all window dressing. As a kid I drank from paper cups with plastic straws. An iced coffee from some restaurants is now a massive plastic cup with a paper straw.

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Post by ben_w »

pjc50 wrote: post #19
jajko wrote: post #5

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Thats the thing with reputation - hard to gradually win, trivial to lose for good if you do something completely against the values you try to project as your core ones. Greenpeace specifically has little sympathies - they often fulfill the definition of eco-terrorists. Its like those idiots spraying beautiful old masters paintings worth tens of millions to 'send strong ecological message so people wake up'. Well, ne…

While I'm defending Greenpeace, I'm convinced that Extinction Rebellion are an 'op' run by UK security services because of how counterproductive they are. Especially after the revelations of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lambert_(undercover_police...

My gut says otherwise, given the apparent decentralised structure and international range, making them difficult for a secret hand to guide while also being more prone to any one local group having their own Leeroy Jenkins.

That said, I've seen the inside of the American Green Party, and what I saw had vibes of someone deliberately following the CIA guide to organisational sabotage — though even then, also a lot of amateurs with no idea how small and irrelevant they are and thus obliviously attempting to directly change the whole world rather than focus on what they actually have the power to influence, and I suspect that was where the majority of their mistakes came from.

(Also a few genuine experts who were busy trying to sort out the internal issues, but "busy" tends to also mean "quiet").

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Post by grishka »

redwood wrote: post #30

Is the McDonald's of coffee. Why do people go there at all

The good thing about these global chains is that you see the logo anywhere in the world and you know exactly what to expect inside. Other that that, yes, Starbucks (and Stars Coffee it became here in Russia) is just a massively overpriced coffee shop. There always are cheaper and better ones.

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Post by Philpax »

bdjsiqoocwk wrote: post #21
seydor wrote: post #3

i bet he will ban plastic straws to compensate

I don't understand the point of straws. Can't you just use your mouth?

Aside from the reasons others have provided, a not-insubstantial number of people can't use their mouth: for reasons of disability or other, they cannot produce enough suction with their mouth alone.

For this demographic, paper straws are a significant issue: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2018/07/11/627773979/wh...

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Post by zoklet-enjoyer »

alephnerd wrote: post #40
cebert wrote: post #36

No remote work for thee, but remote work for me.

Starbucks wanted/needed a new CEO because the previous one was mismanaging the company, and Niccols is the best Restaurant CEO in the industry, having lead Chipotle's turnaround. Niccols was in a position to make his own demands, and Starbucks had no choice but to comply. Niccols even became chairman of the Starbucks board (it's very rare for a CEO to also be the chairman of the board at this size of a company). Alre…

I guess their stock price is doing well, but have you been to a Chipotle lately? The stores here are understaffed and food quality seems to have gone down from what I remember from a decade ago when I went there frequently.

Re: Starbucks' new CEO will supercommute 1k miles from California to Seattle

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Post by NexusGS »

I am sure that Starbucks will find a way to offset those emissions that the Jet will release to the planet, right? If they need him so badly (and I don't doubt about his skills or his ability to deliver) they can arrange a schedule with him that will get him a few continuous days per month in a hotel in Seattle, a few days per month travelling abroad (which is part of the JD) and a few days from home. But commuting with a jet is outrageous.
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