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Why are Texas interchanges so tall?

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Re: Why are Texas interchanges so tall?

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- The municipality of Zurich has an area of 91.88km² - The Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex, urban area (excluding huge swaths of land where people live and presumably need commute from) has an area of 4,524.44km² Numbers taken from wikipedia.

I think it's difficult for Europeans to grasp the size of the US. Texas alone is twice the size of Germany - which is really crazy.

Why would that be difficult?

Re: Why are Texas interchanges so tall?

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post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- The municipality of Zurich has an area of 91.88km² - The Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex, urban area (excluding huge swaths of land where people live and presumably need commute from) has an area of 4,524.44km² Numbers taken from wikipedia.

To be fair to the parent poster as well, almost everyone within the 5000km2 around Zurich is within a couple minutes walk of public transport. It is really is quite remarkable. However, I think this is enabled by expensive high density apartment housing. Americans would consider the apartment sizes inhumane and a supermajority of the population are locked out of our owning a home.

You are making the argument that Americans would consider it inhumane to live in Swiss apartments because they are too small?

Re: Why are Texas interchanges so tall?

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So... > Q: Why are Texas interchanges so tall? > > Frontage roads need grade separation, adding a layer. > Texas has lots of frontage roads. OK, I buy that Texas has more grade-separated interchanges on average... but I'm not seeing how that turns into "Texas has more higher interchanges" which is what it feels like that question is asking. Frontage roads don't generally exist where 3+ highways intersect, so that sho…

Completely random tidbit of information, in Houston (and only Houston) we call them 'feeder roads.'

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Re: Why are Texas interchanges so tall?

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Have you been to a city(and country) with a good public transport system? I live in Zürich(not from here) and it blows my mind how convenient it is to walk 25 meters to the nearest tram stop and easily get to anywhere in the city. I used to think like you, that having car was a necessity, even freedom. Now I see it for what it is, a ball and chain.

- The municipality of Zurich has an area of 91.88km² - The Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex, urban area (excluding huge swaths of land where people live and presumably need commute from) has an area of 4,524.44km² Numbers taken from wikipedia.

What's the argument here, it's not possible to make train/metro/tram-lines long enough?

Everytime(without fail) I mention how fantastic public transport can be using Zürich as an example, Americans mention that the "US is simply too big".

But that is not an argument! Build more lines? London also has a pretty solid public transport system(though not as great as it could be, due to how car centric the country is).

Re: Why are Texas interchanges so tall?

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America is a melting pot. It’s thousands of cultures at once. Acceptance is America. Texas is part of America. It’s no more American than Washington, Montana, or New York.

Texas is a giant strip mall with football stadiums and megachurches sprinkled throughout.

Florida minus DisneyWorld.

Re: Why are Texas interchanges so tall?

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To be clear, The Strip is nothing like living in Las Vegas. Nothing. Las Vegas, outside The Strip, is basically Phoenix, except there's video poker machines in the grocery stores.

… and the C-stores, and the bars (which are open 24/7).

I've never been to Las Vegas, but I remember my dad saying that there were slot machines in a CVS he went to there once. Growing up in Massachusetts, it took me a bit to get used to pharmacies even having alcohol after moving to New York, so this always amused me.

Re: Why are Texas interchanges so tall?

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It’s a shame this country is so obsessed with cars. There’s so much land yet we devote it to destroying lush ecosystems (that help reduce effects of Mother Nature) and replacing it with massive highway projects that end up costing everyone more in taxes/indefinite maintenance costs. Then the effect is 10X’d when useless suburbs are built. More car dependence. More time spent on roads. Traffic slows to a halt as subur…

Robert Caro's book The Power Broker details how Robert Moses hacked govt post WWII, so that urban areas unwittingly financed sprawl. So much so that when NYC nearly went bankrupt, the victim was blamed.

So thoroughly was the con job that just now some groups have started to question it. Orgs like Sightline, Stronger Towns, micromobility, renewed interest in mass transit, and so forth.

Re: Why are Texas interchanges so tall?

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post #92

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I'm not sure what you think the alternative is. The US is huge compared to any similarly developed country. Is the answer huge cities right next to thousands of square miles of untouched nature? That hasn't happened in any society on the planet. It sounds like you just want everyone to live in a city and take public transit everywhere but cities are awful for your mental health[0] and most people in the US do not wan…

If people want to live in rural areas, that's fine by me. They don't particularly contribute to the problems with car-centric infrastructure in the US. The main complaints are how most cities in the US are designed in ways that are hostile to anybody who doesn't have a car, such as: - making it difficult to get around safely by bike - zoning restrictions that force development to be clumped in certain areas - underde…

As someone who recently bought a house (and used to live in an apartment), those were some of the reasons why I opted out of apartment life. I would prefer to live in a denser urban area if other amenities and quality of life benefits came with it, but they don’t in my city. Even if you live close to the city core, there are either extremely limited or entirely nonexistent options for groceries, fitness and recreation, coffee shops, affordable eateries, non-alcohol entertainment and art, etc in most neighborhoods. You would still have to drive most of the time anyway. Most of the denser areas closer to downtown can also be quite dangerous for pedestrians after dark. The few places that have denser housing with those amenities within (safe) walking access are exorbitantly more expensive. Meanwhile apartment and townhome developments are now springing up everywhere in my area of town, but without any amenities to go with them, leading to even more vehicle congestion on the local streets as people try to escape the neighborhood and reach the highways.

Re: Why are Texas interchanges so tall?

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First time I visited the US it was Houston, Texas. My host was perplexed because I laughed out loud while we were driving. Experiencing highways and those massive gas stations felt like someone had made a state that mocked America by taking prejudices we have about the American traffic and making them 200% larger in real life. My mind was blown.

> ...and those massive gas stations...

Buc-ee's is the Trader Joe's of Texas, find all kinds of weird things that are actually good, or at least novel. Also, cleanest public restrooms you'll probably ever experience. Decent breakfast tacos too

"I'm from Texas, what country are you from?"

Re: Why are Texas interchanges so tall?

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Most Americans vote with their wallets and feet. They don't want dense apartment living and the majority run from it as soon as they can afford it. It is usually possible to rent small apartments near work in most metro areas, but instead they prefer 3000sqft places to 600sqft and supermarkets to corner stores. There is a huge amount that would have to change about the American dream and esthetic desires to enable ca…

Yes, this is why San Francisco, Boston and NYC have the cheapest rents in the US.

According to Zillow, the median rent (for all property types) is $3,300 is San Francisco, but it is $3,400 in the neighboring San Mateo county, so yes, SF is indeed cheaper ;)
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