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A $1 billion idea...that I know I'm not ready for

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Re: A $1 billion idea...that I know I'm not ready for

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boom, brand loyalty is gone, nobody would go to their "favourite" store any more because there would be no favourites. You are assuming a store like walmart doesn't differentiate itself from other stores by having an easier return policy, or that target doesn't differentiate itself with a nicer store. If you could get 1 store to adopt this system, others may follow since they would be losing out to store 1. Would it…

I might need to clarify my point, I don't mean companies like Target or Walmart that have huge numbers of outlets, these companies already compete on $0.01 differences, these companies (in England at least) already do the sort of thing the post describes. I'm talking about the "normal" stores, the ones that might have 1 or 2 locations in one city, or have 2 or 3 locations across the country, the stores that rely on b…

If you are giving them the inventory management software for free, that is a huge hook for cash strapped small businesses. And once your 'trojan horse' is installed, it's a lot easier to convince a small business owner to 'activate' the product sharing feature to gain an edge over other nearby businesses.

And then as you said, once one business does it, the others follow so that they don't become disadvantaged.

It would seem to me that the key to success is ensuring that your inventory management software is highly intuitive and easy to use for the time-poor business owners.

Re: A $1 billion idea...that I know I'm not ready for

#53

This is a terrible idea[see edit]. What incentive is there for any store to use this system when they're providing their data in a single easy to query location? Brick and mortar stores have custom because of brand loyalty, a large part of brand loyalty is saying "I shopped around twice and both times x was cheaper, I'll assume x is always cheaper and use them". Now imagine if every time a consumer wanted something t…

I think you're missing a key distinction here:

- there are many items people buy on price and are willing to order online. Such items will gradually become unavailable in stores whether or not this idea is ever implemented.

- there are also many items that people want immediately, and are not well suited for online ordering. This convenience makes them well suited to these local search capabilities, and this characteristic may overcome a good part of the resistance to share data.

This distinction is crucial. It may not overcome the psychological resistance you mention, but it isn't obvious how serious that is or whether it can be overcome by system design. For example, you point out a key feature of this system which is the need for limited query capabilities and no downloading (cue debate on how possible that is).

But you miss the real problem with the idea. System integration difficulties will prevent the system from achieving critical mass and broad coverage. It will be unreasonably painful for stores to join the system for extremely mundane reasons like file formats and the difficulty of mapping proprietary taxonomies. Offline retailers just won't have data as ready to integrate as online.

Not impossible, but the sort of unrecognized under appreciated real challenge of the system.

Re: A $1 billion idea...that I know I'm not ready for

#54
I talked about something like this years ago to my sister, who actually owns a retail store. As most people indicated, stores do not want to let anyone else know what their inventories are, especially customers.

But also, depending on the type of store you are, inventories are not as tight as you would think. Stores have a general idea of how much inventory they have on hand, but they never have an exact amount. And the thing is, most don't care. That was the part that surprised me the most. They expect a certain amount of theft, misplaced inventory, wrong inventory counts sent from their suppliers, etc, so they don't waste a lot of time making sure their inventory is extremely accurate.

Re: A $1 billion idea...that I know I'm not ready for

#55
Everybody in this business thinks of doing it, you definitely not the first one. (edit: everybody == strategists)

1) If you can make a really good software in this space, you can make millions just selling it.

2) If you really want to try this, you should get a deep pocketed friend who will buy a company which already has the software, so you can focus on getting the service running asap, not after 5 years.

3) Retailers are not naive about their data and store experience. And there are countless variables that you will need to accommodate. Even if you have a service in place, it may never fly in the volume that you are hoping for.

4) If it doesn't reach the volume you are hoping for, you will not make more money than you would have made by selling them the software. Perhaps you should have tried another strategy, that is more directly related to the data you were hoping to get your hands on.

Re: A $1 billion idea...that I know I'm not ready for

#56
This was kind of what Google Base (Now called Google Merchant Center) was meant to be. It was launched by Google in 2005.

http://googlebase.blogspot.ca/2005/11/getting-off-first-base...

I haven't played with Merchant Center, but Google Base was never good enough that merchants would adopt it in numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Base

Re: A $1 billion idea...that I know I'm not ready for

#57

This is one of those ideas that you really have to think from both sides. On the consumer side I get this really cool App which I click "I wanna buy a foo" and Blam! every place that both sells and has a foo in stock is right there on the page. Awesomesauce! Ok now look at it from the vendor side. I'm running my store, I need to make $2500 - $25,000 a day to make payroll. I carry a bunch of products, I don't make the…

If you think a little, this is "OpenTable for shopping."

Apparently, all the restaurants hate opentable, but they feel compelled to use it, because their competitors do.

Re: A $1 billion idea...that I know I'm not ready for

#58

This is a terrible idea[see edit]. What incentive is there for any store to use this system when they're providing their data in a single easy to query location? Brick and mortar stores have custom because of brand loyalty, a large part of brand loyalty is saying "I shopped around twice and both times x was cheaper, I'll assume x is always cheaper and use them". Now imagine if every time a consumer wanted something t…

I think you're missing a key distinction here: - there are many items people buy on price and are willing to order online. Such items will gradually become unavailable in stores whether or not this idea is ever implemented. - there are also many items that people want immediately, and are not well suited for online ordering. This convenience makes them well suited to these local search capabilities, and this characte…

You have pointed out some of the other big problems but I disagree that any of them are "the real problem".

The biggest problem, as the parent said, is that brick and mortar stores would be actively hostile to this idea.

Re: A $1 billion idea...that I know I'm not ready for

#59

This is one of those ideas that you really have to think from both sides. On the consumer side I get this really cool App which I click "I wanna buy a foo" and Blam! every place that both sells and has a foo in stock is right there on the page. Awesomesauce! Ok now look at it from the vendor side. I'm running my store, I need to make $2500 - $25,000 a day to make payroll. I carry a bunch of products, I don't make the…

Your comment points to the solution: that of increasing retailer specialization, and the need for local stores to focus on items that are not easily purchased through mail order.

The corner grocery in an urban neighborhood doesn't compete on price with the supermarket 10 blocks away. It competes on convenience.

I'm not saying the idea works, but there is more to it than just mapping all existing old school retail establishments into a search engine.

Re: A $1 billion idea...that I know I'm not ready for

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post #45

I don't want to be too harsh but haven't most people had this idea before? I know I have and I immediately dismissed it because you would have to get the business co-operation of many retailers for it to be any use (and what is in it for them?). You would have to develop your own software, ok fine. You would have to integrate with all these retailers archaic inventory systems which you probably would not be allowed t…

If everyone is dismissing it that's because it's hard and should be done..

There's hard and there's having one entire side of your business (the actual brick and mortar stores) being actively hostile to the idea.
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