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Amazon has had its App Store on Android for years. It was a good source of high quality apps given away for free for a while. If Epic does that too, consumers win.
Oh you're right! I forgot about that, I wonder what happened to it.
It's still there. Amazon no longer has ambitions to get App Store users outside of Fire tablets, so there aren't any deals anymore.
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#55Question for someone who is a fan of brand-specific game stores: what do you like about them? Personally I find the idea of apps-within-apps annoying and convoluted, but I’m willing to entertain the notion that I’m a luddite.
I don't feel the need to pay a commission for a digital storefront. I know a lot of folks find value in app store/steam etc... but I find almost no value. At the same price, I would rather the money go to the seller of the product and I definitely don't want to pay more for a storefront.
I find the normal reasons people like digital storefronts not very compelling: safety, reviews, all in one place, etc...
I also worry about everything being in one account. If I lose my epic games account, I'm not going to worry too much. If Valve locks me out, I'm in trouble, so I would rather diversify away from Valve if I can.
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>If anyone wants to reply that "I've just dodged a bullet thanks to EU blocking unethical websites" then all I can say is I know how to dodge bullets by myself, thanks. These websites did not get blocked by the EU. These websites chose to block themselves because they did not want to put in the effort to be GDPR compliant.
Which is functionally the same? EU can’t ban websites, but the threat of very high fines is effectively the same. Also when it comes to random news websites (especially smaller local ones) what sort risks are there? The aren’t handling your personal information and if you’re afraid about them selling your browsing history to third parties there are way to fix that locally
> what sort risks are there? The aren’t handling your personal information
The sites themselves disagree with you. They think there's risk, which is why they decided to not work in the EU. EU does not "threaten very high fines" to sites that do not collect PII. GDPR does nothing if you don't collect information. But they obviously do collect it, despite your denial.
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> Ironically it is the fetish with free market economics that produces the monopolies. Not really, it's the fetish with taking free market economics to the extreme. You can't really have a free market without regulation, though now we're getting in a GPL-vs-MIT-like argument of whether "free" means "without restrictions" or "with restrictions that ensure the desired outcomes are produced".
>> You can't really have a free market without regulation The definition of a free market is one without government regulation. There is no such GPL-vs-MIT debate here. Perhaps you are thinking of the term “capitalism”? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/free%20market https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/eng... https://www.dictionary.com/browse/free-market https://dictionary.cambridge.org/…
> The definition of a free market is one without government regulation. There is no such GPL-vs-MIT debate here.
Actually, there is, because I was able to find several other definitions that include minimal government regulation. This is also how most of my friends and family use the term.
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#58Just curious. On the other thread, people complain that Google didn't take down a scam app fast enough. People obviously complain about the 30% commission fee for digital goods. So if people don't want to pay the commission, and they want Google to police all the apps, isn't that just a giant cost for Google without a way of making it sustainable? Unless people are ok with drastically higher initial phone hardware co…
They can't have their cake and eat it too. When you entrench yourself in a monopoly, there are duties that come with it There could've been other app stores. There could've been a choice at startup like there is for browsers. There could've been 4 or 5 app stores installed by default whether you're on a Pixel or on a Samsung device. It is nobody's fault but Google's that they became a gatekeeper with their app store.…
>They can't have their cake and eat it too. When you entrench yourself in a monopoly, there are duties that come with it
I mean, it seems like people want their cake and eat it too. Not Google.
People want no commission, and for Google to spend resources policing the app store.
Since Google open sources Android, Google doesn't make money from the OS itself. They only make money through pre-installed Google apps and the app store.
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#59Just curious. On the other thread, people complain that Google didn't take down a scam app fast enough. People obviously complain about the 30% commission fee for digital goods. So if people don't want to pay the commission, and they want Google to police all the apps, isn't that just a giant cost for Google without a way of making it sustainable? Unless people are ok with drastically higher initial phone hardware co…
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Which is functionally the same? EU can’t ban websites, but the threat of very high fines is effectively the same. Also when it comes to random news websites (especially smaller local ones) what sort risks are there? The aren’t handling your personal information and if you’re afraid about them selling your browsing history to third parties there are way to fix that locally
> what sort risks are there? The aren’t handling your personal information The sites themselves disagree with you. They think there's risk, which is why they decided to not work in the EU. EU does not "threaten very high fines" to sites that do not collect PII. GDPR does nothing if you don't collect information. But they obviously do collect it, despite your denial.
I meant risk for consumers due to those sites not complying with GDPR.
Of course the site owners think there it introduces unnecessary risks for them, that was more or less what my initial comment was about.
> But they obviously do collect it, despite your denial.
How? are you somehow compelled to share you name and address with random local/small new-sites from the US
They very likely are just using ads and/or analytics services which technically don’t comply with GDPR..