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The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android

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Re: The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android

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Post by dools »

stavros wrote: post #4

I'm looking forward to this, even if only to have an alternative Android store that doesn't take such an egregious fee. I just want the market forces to decide the cut, instead of the monopolies. The only thing left to fix is Apple's ridiculous "fee for not putting things on our store". Hopefully someone will do this soon, if the Epic store isn't this (or is this for just games).

"I just want the market forces to decide the cut, instead of the monopolies"

Ironically it is the fetish with free market economics that produces the monopolies. I wonder how many "techno optimist" libertarians are also cheering the fact that Apple has been forced by government regulation to allow competitors onto their platform.

Re: The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android

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Post by dunekid »

Elfener wrote: post #2

You've heard "available on android" and "available on ios", get ready for "available on ios (europe only)".

I guess europe in this case extends to Americas, by the existence of French Guiana and other outermost EU regions. I am wondering if that could pave way for some technological quirks if these things do not trickle into NA quick enough.

Re: The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android

#14

Post by kiririn »

Vespasian wrote: post #6

That process they show in the youtube video is pretty involved and very complex for no other reason than to keep people locked in to the apple store. As a layman I doubt this is compliant with the appropriate EU laws (specifically the DMA) Unfortunately this behaviour does not come as a surprise but I certainly hope the regulatory "beatings" will continue until compliance improves.

It’s no worse than the process for installing an android apk downloaded using the browser for the first time

See the video for Android for comparison

Re: The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android

#15

Post by aurareturn »

Just curious.

On the other thread, people complain that Google didn't take down a scam app fast enough.

People obviously complain about the 30% commission fee for digital goods.

So if people don't want to pay the commission, and they want Google to police all the apps, isn't that just a giant cost for Google without a way of making it sustainable?

Unless people are ok with drastically higher initial phone hardware costs to make up for the loss revenue on app store commissions? For example, let's say the average phone now costs $1,000 and Google can collect 30% commission. Let's say countries ban the commission. Google has to make money somehow. They make the phone cost $2,000 now and also they no longer make Android open source to restrict workarounds. Would people prefer that more?

Re: The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android

#17

Post by chii »

dools wrote: post #11
stavros wrote: post #4

I'm looking forward to this, even if only to have an alternative Android store that doesn't take such an egregious fee. I just want the market forces to decide the cut, instead of the monopolies. The only thing left to fix is Apple's ridiculous "fee for not putting things on our store". Hopefully someone will do this soon, if the Epic store isn't this (or is this for just games).

"I just want the market forces to decide the cut, instead of the monopolies" Ironically it is the fetish with free market economics that produces the monopolies. I wonder how many "techno optimist" libertarians are also cheering the fact that Apple has been forced by government regulation to allow competitors onto their platform.

> Ironically it is the fetish with free market economics that produces the monopolies.

only when there's not sufficient regulations from cartel like behaviour. At the risk of invoking the no-real-scotsman fallacy, i would say that a real free market cannot support a monopoly, unless said monopoly is taking as thin a cut of the profit as possible (thus leaving no room for competition as the initial outlay of capital would not be worth it).

Re: The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android

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Post by stavros »

dools wrote: post #11
stavros wrote: post #4

I'm looking forward to this, even if only to have an alternative Android store that doesn't take such an egregious fee. I just want the market forces to decide the cut, instead of the monopolies. The only thing left to fix is Apple's ridiculous "fee for not putting things on our store". Hopefully someone will do this soon, if the Epic store isn't this (or is this for just games).

"I just want the market forces to decide the cut, instead of the monopolies" Ironically it is the fetish with free market economics that produces the monopolies. I wonder how many "techno optimist" libertarians are also cheering the fact that Apple has been forced by government regulation to allow competitors onto their platform.

> Ironically it is the fetish with free market economics that produces the monopolies.

Not really, it's the fetish with taking free market economics to the extreme. You can't really have a free market without regulation, though now we're getting in a GPL-vs-MIT-like argument of whether "free" means "without restrictions" or "with restrictions that ensure the desired outcomes are produced".

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aurareturn wrote: post #15

Just curious. On the other thread, people complain that Google didn't take down a scam app fast enough. People obviously complain about the 30% commission fee for digital goods. So if people don't want to pay the commission, and they want Google to police all the apps, isn't that just a giant cost for Google without a way of making it sustainable? Unless people are ok with drastically higher initial phone hardware co…

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