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> I welcome all the downvotes, facts are long gone To be fair I’m only downvoting because you couldn’t provide any coherent or rational arguments or claims (and to be fair it’s not even clear what are you trying to say) and not because of some “ideological” reasons
The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android
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#32Just curious. On the other thread, people complain that Google didn't take down a scam app fast enough. People obviously complain about the 30% commission fee for digital goods. So if people don't want to pay the commission, and they want Google to police all the apps, isn't that just a giant cost for Google without a way of making it sustainable? Unless people are ok with drastically higher initial phone hardware co…
Re: The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android
#33Just curious. On the other thread, people complain that Google didn't take down a scam app fast enough. People obviously complain about the 30% commission fee for digital goods. So if people don't want to pay the commission, and they want Google to police all the apps, isn't that just a giant cost for Google without a way of making it sustainable? Unless people are ok with drastically higher initial phone hardware co…
The reason grocery stores and meat packing plants are inspected, is that competition on price, on profit is a thing. So eventually in a competitive market, someone tries to cut costs by reducing safery checks.
Look at Boeing. Cutting safety in the name of profit.
So if there is a lot of competition for app stores, cost cutting could come out of reduced fees, "safety inspections" could be impacted.
Which means we'll need new laws and regulations for store owners, to make sure they are performing due diligence.
At least, as a parallel construct.
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#34You've heard "available on android" and "available on ios", get ready for "available on ios (europe only)".
There is already the opposite situation: "available on iOS AppStore (except in EU)". And that might pop up more often in the future.
We already have lots of that related to website access. "Not available due to GDPR" is a pretty common error message for me.
If anyone wants to reply that "I've just dodged a bullet thanks to EU blocking unethical websites" then all I can say is I know how to dodge bullets by myself, thanks.
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#35Just curious. On the other thread, people complain that Google didn't take down a scam app fast enough. People obviously complain about the 30% commission fee for digital goods. So if people don't want to pay the commission, and they want Google to police all the apps, isn't that just a giant cost for Google without a way of making it sustainable? Unless people are ok with drastically higher initial phone hardware co…
The argument you get from Google is that downloading APKs is dangerous so everyone should use the store. When they don't police the store anyway then it's obvious they're just abusing everyone.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I welcome all the downvotes, facts are long gone To be fair I’m only downvoting because you couldn’t provide any coherent or rational arguments or claims (and to be fair it’s not even clear what are you trying to say) and not because of some “ideological” reasons
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#37That process they show in the youtube video is pretty involved and very complex for no other reason than to keep people locked in to the apple store. As a layman I doubt this is compliant with the appropriate EU laws (specifically the DMA) Unfortunately this behaviour does not come as a surprise but I certainly hope the regulatory "beatings" will continue until compliance improves.
1. Go to Epic Store website, click on Install
2. Nothing happens
3. Click again
4. Popup message appears, I click OK
5. Popup gone. Do I have the app now?
6. No I don’t. I read the steps again.
7. Ooh I needed to go to Settings and approve it there.
8. I went to Settings, it appears at the top. I click.
9. Another popup with lots of text appears. I click yes.
10. Now I need to go back to that Epic page and hit Install again for the third time.
11. Click “Install”. Nothing happens.
12. Get annoyed, click Install five more times. Another popup appears.
13. I click yes.
14. Finally, I have the Epic Store installed!
It’s hard to imagine this experience wasn’t intentionally made so awful.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
"I just want the market forces to decide the cut, instead of the monopolies" Ironically it is the fetish with free market economics that produces the monopolies. I wonder how many "techno optimist" libertarians are also cheering the fact that Apple has been forced by government regulation to allow competitors onto their platform.
> Ironically it is the fetish with free market economics that produces the monopolies. Not really, it's the fetish with taking free market economics to the extreme. You can't really have a free market without regulation, though now we're getting in a GPL-vs-MIT-like argument of whether "free" means "without restrictions" or "with restrictions that ensure the desired outcomes are produced".
Indeed, as such the term "free market" is an oxymoron. Governments create markets, and the currency used to trade in those markets.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
"I just want the market forces to decide the cut, instead of the monopolies" Ironically it is the fetish with free market economics that produces the monopolies. I wonder how many "techno optimist" libertarians are also cheering the fact that Apple has been forced by government regulation to allow competitors onto their platform.
> Ironically it is the fetish with free market economics that produces the monopolies. only when there's not sufficient regulations from cartel like behaviour. At the risk of invoking the no-real-scotsman fallacy, i would say that a real free market cannot support a monopoly, unless said monopoly is taking as thin a cut of the profit as possible (thus leaving no room for competition as the initial outlay of capital w…
And if that entity is superior to the market, then how can the market be "really free"?
Re: The Epic Games Store Launches on iOS and Android
#40That process they show in the youtube video is pretty involved and very complex for no other reason than to keep people locked in to the apple store. As a layman I doubt this is compliant with the appropriate EU laws (specifically the DMA) Unfortunately this behaviour does not come as a surprise but I certainly hope the regulatory "beatings" will continue until compliance improves.
Just installed the Epic Store, my experience step-by-step: 1. Go to Epic Store website, click on Install 2. Nothing happens 3. Click again 4. Popup message appears, I click OK 5. Popup gone. Do I have the app now? 6. No I don’t. I read the steps again. 7. Ooh I needed to go to Settings and approve it there. 8. I went to Settings, it appears at the top. I click. 9. Another popup with lots of text appears. I click yes.…