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"Us vs. Them" language shapes the Apple ecosystem narrative

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Re: "Us vs. Them" language shapes the Apple ecosystem narrative

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HN policy is that submissions always link to the primary source. Alternative proxy links (Thread Reader, archive.today, archive.org) are welcome in the comments, but as they are not the primary source, they should not be submitted as the HN topic.

And, for whatever reason, Twitter/X links get upvoted on HN. Otherwise, eventually word would get out to content creators that, if they want exposure on HN, they'd have to put their content somewhere other than Twitter/X.

From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html:

> On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting.

If there's things on Twitter that are interesting, they may be submitted. Blocking Twitter would effectively block quite a few interesting submissions. Furthermore, most people don't go to Twitter to get HN upvotes; they're going there for likes and retweets.

Re: "Us vs. Them" language shapes the Apple ecosystem narrative

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I didn’t really see good examples of their claims in the unrollnow link - was there more on x proper? Admittedly I’m not an iOS/macOS dev so I’m probably not the target audience of this CtA. Or maybe I’m just too keen to the irony of using language to deconstruct another’s use of language, how the “us vs them” language shapes the argument about Apple’s own so-called “us vs them” language…

See Tim Sweeney's take: https://x.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1825184744792793265

(Yes, individual tweets can be viewed without an account.)

Re: "Us vs. Them" language shapes the Apple ecosystem narrative

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> 4/10 The External Link Account Entitlement? It's like they're actively trying to make it sound complicated. WTF this even is? I have no idea what could "The External Link Account Entitlement" mean.

Entitlements are flags (like AndroidManifest permissions) for apps allowing them to do things. It’s not something a user will ever encounter.

In this case it is a flag indicating to the reviewer etc that the app links to a website for account creation and management rather than doing it all within the app.

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HN policy is that submissions always link to the primary source. Alternative proxy links (Thread Reader, archive.today, archive.org) are welcome in the comments, but as they are not the primary source, they should not be submitted as the HN topic.

At what point is the front page all original source intranet links?

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Apple doesn't necessarily making the best hardware or software, but they are definitely the best at branding and public relations.

This doesn't stand up to reality. You can't market your way into billions of sales over such a long period while a superior product exists at a lower price sold literally right next to it. You just can't hide the lack of signal for that long. The "iPhones are a status symbol" hasn't been true for a long time because everyone has them. They are the better software and hardware product full stop. Whether that makes the…

> You can't market your way into billions of sales over such a long period while a superior product exists at a lower price sold literally right next to it.

Microsoft's "Internet Explorer" would like a word with you...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN policy is that submissions always link to the primary source. Alternative proxy links (Thread Reader, archive.today, archive.org) are welcome in the comments, but as they are not the primary source, they should not be submitted as the HN topic.

And, for whatever reason, Twitter/X links get upvoted on HN. Otherwise, eventually word would get out to content creators that, if they want exposure on HN, they'd have to put their content somewhere other than Twitter/X.

Don’t you think they get upvoted bc other HN users don’t share your opinion on X links or outright disagree with you?

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Right. What else do you propose? a large book burning? destroying libraries? X (formerly Twitter) has a large trove of valuable content that dates from the "Twitter 1.0" era as well.

Banning the media of an oligarch who supported book bans in public libraries would just sounds like karma to me.
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