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Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by sph »

sebastos wrote: post #222
j1elo wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow those answers are indeed funny. I agree that as an OSS dev/maintainer, it's easy to fall on the vice of over-generalization and crusade for the perfect solution, and it feels that's exactly what happened there. > this feature is algorithmically impossible > You're just looking at one specific video, not the general problem. > is not generally possible. As a fellow multimedia dev, man, who cares? Sometimes we forg…

Disagree! VLC is what it is today because the authors understood video standards enough to make the _right_ abstractions that could generalize to ~every video format ever. That is no easy task. Video container standards are utterly perverse, and seem to delight in stomping over even the most innocent intuitions about what you would expect to find in a stream of bits that purports to contain "video". They often refuse…

You speak as if VLC is the pinnacle of video player technology. I know it is an open source darling, but it's been a buggy, overengineered mess since forever, which is why many use alternatives as mpv, IINA when I used macOS, SMplayer, etc.

On fact, with all due respect, I never understood why VLC was so widely praised. It is the only player to stutter for me on Windows, to get lost in its settings page, to have a terrible playlist implementation that's forced upon you, doesn't handle corrupted media as well as others, etc. mpv on the other hand does one thing and does it very well.

I'll skip ranting about VLC for Android TV this time

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by cypress66 »

user3939382 wrote: post #171
efilife wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. It doesn't let the audio clip/exceed safe volumes and always applies some sort of a limiter, even if it's disabled everywhere in the settings. Try using an EQ on a bass-heavy track and see that it's limited. Try jumping back multiple times in a song at its beginning, and it will play in lower pitch.

That strikes me as such a strange statement, I’ve always considered it to be among the most impressive OSS projects out there. It tackles enormous complexity, works everywhere, and has a trove of a million hidden features. For example, I use it to headless play streams from CLI.

VLC is only praised in "normie" places. It is hated in places like anime forums, 4chan, etc.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by sph »

user3939382 wrote: post #171
efilife wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. It doesn't let the audio clip/exceed safe volumes and always applies some sort of a limiter, even if it's disabled everywhere in the settings. Try using an EQ on a bass-heavy track and see that it's limited. Try jumping back multiple times in a song at its beginning, and it will play in lower pitch.

That strikes me as such a strange statement, I’ve always considered it to be among the most impressive OSS projects out there. It tackles enormous complexity, works everywhere, and has a trove of a million hidden features. For example, I use it to headless play streams from CLI.

> has a trove of a million hidden features

No software person would find this praiseworthy. A million features = two million bugs, and indeed it shows.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by martin293 »

langcss wrote: post #277
sebastos wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree! VLC is what it is today because the authors understood video standards enough to make the _right_ abstractions that could generalize to ~every video format ever. That is no easy task. Video container standards are utterly perverse, and seem to delight in stomping over even the most innocent intuitions about what you would expect to find in a stream of bits that purports to contain "video". They often refuse…

If so, how comes you can do the workaround one suggested of entering a time one second ago then going forward a frame at a time?

You can only do it for certain formats

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by cenamus »

ksdnjweusdnkl21 wrote: post #270

It sounds stupid but the killer feature for me is possibility to have multiple subtitles visible, all easily configurable with a few keybinds (track, offset, position, size etc). No streaming service provides this, and they actively omit subtitle languages that aren't "relevant" to your geolocation. I cannot respect a service like that.

Especially for things like language learning they are amazing, but services like Amazon show like two (English and the local language) out of the 30 something they have available. And I won't even go into the difference of subtitles and dubbing...

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by vladvasiliu »

shmerl wrote: post #172
Venn1 wrote: post #54

If you're on Linux, don't forget to enable hardware acceleration by adding hwdec=auto to mpv.conf. Works with AMD/Intel/NVIDIA. https://interfacinglinux.com/2024/01/10/hardware-acceleratio...

I do it like this: vo=gpu-next gpu-api=vulkan hwdec=vulkan gpu-context=waylandvk You can replace hwdec=vulkan with hwdec=vaapi if Vulkan video doesn't work.

Is there a reason why one would prefer vulkan over vaapi, or the other way round?

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by littlestymaar »

sebastos wrote: post #222
j1elo wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow those answers are indeed funny. I agree that as an OSS dev/maintainer, it's easy to fall on the vice of over-generalization and crusade for the perfect solution, and it feels that's exactly what happened there. > this feature is algorithmically impossible > You're just looking at one specific video, not the general problem. > is not generally possible. As a fellow multimedia dev, man, who cares? Sometimes we forg…

Disagree! VLC is what it is today because the authors understood video standards enough to make the _right_ abstractions that could generalize to ~every video format ever. That is no easy task. Video container standards are utterly perverse, and seem to delight in stomping over even the most innocent intuitions about what you would expect to find in a stream of bits that purports to contain "video". They often refuse…

> VLC is what it is today because the authors understood video standards enough to make the _right_ abstractions that could generalize to ~every video format ever.

VLC used to be the dominant video player for this reason, but then everything has crystallized around h.264 (and h.265) which made the breadth of codec support not as important anymore, making VLC slowly losing relevance because they aren't focused on user experience enough.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by yard2010 »

etra0 wrote: post #20

A fantastic mediaplayer, quite minimalistic and performant; it does what it's supposed to do! Also has a fantastic commit where the author rants about locales: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/commit/1e70e82baa9193f6f02... worth a read for some chuckles.

> Both C locales and wchar_t are shitfucked retarded legacy braindeath. If the C/POSIX standard committee had actually competent members, these would have been deprecated or removed long ago. (I mean, they managed to remove gets().) To justify this emotional outbreak potentially insulting to unknown persons, I will write a lot of text. Those not comfortable with toxic language should pretend this is a religious text.

What a legend.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by ksdnjweusdnkl21 »

cenamus wrote: post #286
ksdnjweusdnkl21 wrote: post #270

It sounds stupid but the killer feature for me is possibility to have multiple subtitles visible, all easily configurable with a few keybinds (track, offset, position, size etc). No streaming service provides this, and they actively omit subtitle languages that aren't "relevant" to your geolocation. I cannot respect a service like that.

Especially for things like language learning they are amazing, but services like Amazon show like two (English and the local language) out of the 30 something they have available. And I won't even go into the difference of subtitles and dubbing...

For language learning there are some scripts that allow you to hover words and show translations for them. I haven't used them myself with mpv, but I found that kind of tools to be invaluable on a browser when learning a language with a foreign script.
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