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Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by user3939382 »

efilife wrote: post #93
lairv wrote: post #69

I use it to inspect video frames by frames, particularly being able to go back one frame. VLC doesn't support it, this thread about the feature is hilarious https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=120627

VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. It doesn't let the audio clip/exceed safe volumes and always applies some sort of a limiter, even if it's disabled everywhere in the settings. Try using an EQ on a bass-heavy track and see that it's limited. Try jumping back multiple times in a song at its beginning, and it will play in lower pitch.

That strikes me as such a strange statement, I’ve always considered it to be among the most impressive OSS projects out there. It tackles enormous complexity, works everywhere, and has a trove of a million hidden features. For example, I use it to headless play streams from CLI.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by shmerl »

Venn1 wrote: post #54

If you're on Linux, don't forget to enable hardware acceleration by adding hwdec=auto to mpv.conf. Works with AMD/Intel/NVIDIA. https://interfacinglinux.com/2024/01/10/hardware-acceleratio...

I do it like this:

    vo=gpu-next
    gpu-api=vulkan
    hwdec=vulkan
    gpu-context=waylandvk
You can replace hwdec=vulkan with hwdec=vaapi if Vulkan video doesn't work.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by jbverschoor »

ziml77 wrote: post #170
j1elo wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow those answers are indeed funny. I agree that as an OSS dev/maintainer, it's easy to fall on the vice of over-generalization and crusade for the perfect solution, and it feels that's exactly what happened there. > this feature is algorithmically impossible > You're just looking at one specific video, not the general problem. > is not generally possible. As a fellow multimedia dev, man, who cares? Sometimes we forg…

I notice a lot of devs try to deny the chaos of the world. It's almost like the code is where they go to hide from things that can't be cleanly and unambiguously expressed. I don't know how they get away with that though. In the coding work that I do, I'm constantly dealing with rules that have exceptions on top of exceptions. I just need to special-case some things, because the alternative is not delivering what the…

And this is exactly the problem when these devs are in charge of creating systems that actually do matter. They will not support edge cases, problems in a process, etc.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by opan »

darby_nine wrote: post #160
efilife wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. It doesn't let the audio clip/exceed safe volumes and always applies some sort of a limiter, even if it's disabled everywhere in the settings. Try using an EQ on a bass-heavy track and see that it's limited. Try jumping back multiple times in a song at its beginning, and it will play in lower pitch.

> VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. Compared to what? Such a statement is meaningless without comparison.

Compared to mpv. Some would also say compared to mpc-hc.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

#176

Post by anigbrowl »

lairv wrote: post #69

I use it to inspect video frames by frames, particularly being able to go back one frame. VLC doesn't support it, this thread about the feature is hilarious https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=120627

I'll be happy to switch over to MPV for this alone. VLC is great in general, but lacking some basic features. This sort of 'not possible' nonsense from developers is always a sign of a project's long-term decline.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by opan »

user3939382 wrote: post #171
efilife wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. It doesn't let the audio clip/exceed safe volumes and always applies some sort of a limiter, even if it's disabled everywhere in the settings. Try using an EQ on a bass-heavy track and see that it's limited. Try jumping back multiple times in a song at its beginning, and it will play in lower pitch.

That strikes me as such a strange statement, I’ve always considered it to be among the most impressive OSS projects out there. It tackles enormous complexity, works everywhere, and has a trove of a million hidden features. For example, I use it to headless play streams from CLI.

If you enter video-related enthusiast scenes, such as fansubbed anime releases, mpv is recommended over anything else across the board. There are releases that break in VLC, and mpv is usually first to support new features. It also has particularly good defaults in terms of good and accurate playback, so where you might see some people say "install mpc-hc and these scripts and change these settings", with mpv it's just "use mpv". mpv is extremely configurable on top of great defaults also. Setting default audio and sub languages in order of your preference (such as enm before eng and en if you prefer honorifics tracks) is a common tweak.

I thought VLC was awesome while growing up, and at the time it probably was compared to Windows Media Player and such. I remember a common bit of praise was that it supported more types of video files. I haven't really run into anything mpv won't play (I even use it when an image I saved ends up as .html for some reason and then use the info screen to determine the real extension it should be so I can rename it), but also I'm guessing we've standardized more on codecs and containers these days which doesn't hurt.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

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Post by Levitating »

justin66 wrote: post #161
lairv wrote: post #69

I use it to inspect video frames by frames, particularly being able to go back one frame. VLC doesn't support it, this thread about the feature is hilarious https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=120627

The developer responds to a comment: But many players are able to do it for years. with: If it's so easy, why are you not doing it? He's not just a butthole, he's a stereotypical open source developer butthole. On the other hand, if he worked for Microsoft, he'd be claiming that it takes a PhD to do it...

In his defense, some commenters had a pretty rude attitude. You cannot demand developers to implement a feature or call them out on being lazy.

Nobody even offered to research how other players accomplish this. They just expect that because they believe it can be done someome should do the work for them.

At least Remi was actually andering questions on the forums.

This attitude towards open source maintainers is what's getting them all burned out.

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

#179

Post by hollerith »

opan wrote: post #175
darby_nine wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. Compared to what? Such a statement is meaningless without comparison.

Compared to mpv. Some would also say compared to mpc-hc.

The first sentence on https://mpc-hc.org/ is, "MPC-HC is not under development since 2017. Please switch to something else."

Re: Mpv – A free, open-source, and cross-platform media player

#180

Post by bananamerica »

user3939382 wrote: post #171
efilife wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VLC is pretty bad and it shows the more you use it. It doesn't let the audio clip/exceed safe volumes and always applies some sort of a limiter, even if it's disabled everywhere in the settings. Try using an EQ on a bass-heavy track and see that it's limited. Try jumping back multiple times in a song at its beginning, and it will play in lower pitch.

That strikes me as such a strange statement, I’ve always considered it to be among the most impressive OSS projects out there. It tackles enormous complexity, works everywhere, and has a trove of a million hidden features. For example, I use it to headless play streams from CLI.

VLC makes video choppy on my low-end Debian machine. MPV plays them perfectly.
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