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Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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throw310822 wrote: post #18
simonw wrote: post #15

From a Google search it looks like this is one of the articles in question: https://teorator.com/index.php/2024/08/12/x-censors-trumps-t... I requested the Internet Archive grab this copy: https://web.archive.org/web/20240816210620/https://teorator....

Looks exceedingly good to be Ai-generated. Also, it appears to be slightly pro-Trump, which doesn't sound like in Iran's interest.

They had 5 or 6 websites that posted constant anti-trump articles according to the Microsoft report linked in the OpenAI blogpost.

https://i.imgur.com/SsMoJTv.png

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Post by vkou »

ImHereToVote wrote: post #3

I wonder if it would be possible to get a list of countries that can have influence operations using ChatGPT and countries that can't.

Why stop at countries? Is it possible to get a list of organizations that are running influence, propaganda, and astroturfing operations using ChatGPT, and its ilk?

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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programmarchy wrote: post #8

The linked PDF (Storm-2035 [1]) from Microsoft is more detailed and interesting than the blog post. However, what's missing from the reports is how they detected those operations and how they tied them to different groups. There's a lot of claims being made without showing all of the supporting evidence. To give them the benefit of the doubt, they likely want to keep their detection methods secret to make circumventi…

I remember a blogpost from OpenAI maybe a year ago that went into great detail about how they find these bad actors.

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by mondobe »

lancesells wrote: post #24
chatmasta wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The noteworthy thing is that OpenAI is reporting it. They’re signaling that they are proactively monitoring and investigating this activity, and that they’re willing to work with federal agencies while self-policing their negative externalities. This is all part of an ongoing conversation with lobbyists about “safe AI,” and it’s ultimately done to show that OpenAI is making an effort to mitigate the risks that regula…

It's a good thing for them to report this, but for a company that decided against watermarking their output they are kind of complicit. I know they might lose their teens and college demographic if they do it, but if it's truly this world-changing tool that they claim than not watermarking is scraping the serial number off the guns they're selling.* * Maybe a shitty analogy

How exactly would they watermark textual content?

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by beepbooptheory »

dfhvneoieno wrote: post #39
usefulcat wrote: post #37

I'd be more interested in an analysis of the likely intention of the campaign. Is it just an attempt to reduce voter turnout? If so, that doesn't seem all that useful by itself.

Iran wants Democrats, Russia wants Republicans. It's easy to see which one is more successful. Every time you blame something on Russia, people come out of the woods "explaining" why Russia is actually the victim (Russia is ALWAYS the victim, is what I've learned from this people).

But if you read the post, you'd learn these bots are writing lots of anti Democrat sentiment.

Is there not anything else that comes to your mind right now that Iran cares about and wants to influence?

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by cjbgkagh »

chrisco255 wrote: post #46
lukev wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Trump has always been much weaker in diplomacy with nations that are historically antagonistic to the US. He'll have a meeting with their leader, let them flatter him, and come away convinced that they're "very nice" and make a lot of concessions. He's basically an admirer of Putin at this point.

The Abraham accords were and are a good development he implemented. The Obama administration in 2015 attempted to bribe Iran into not enriching uranium by effectively paying them $100 billion.

The Abraham accords seemed to be rather forced upon the Arab nations through Israel's influence on the US. To me it not only appeared to lack durability but the coercion involved may be rather counter productive long term - i.e. I thought it was a rather bad idea.

“A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still” - Dale Carnegie

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by SlightlyLeftPad »

bunabhucan wrote: post #67
dtquad wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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0.5% of Russian 2016 election interference stuff was "pro" and "anti" vaccination, split roughly 50:50. Neither got retweeted but it was only extreme positions put forward as if division was the only goal. The goal here could be to sow division or it could be to drive engagement with a view to ultimately pushing a different message (like about Yemen or Israel.)

If anything, this seems like it’s the most likely case. It’s in their best interest to cause chaos in American politics which slows down our progress.
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