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Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by hobo_in_library »

It's hard to take an article like this at face value when they provide zero evidence for any of their claims.

This is coming soon after Trump decided to accuse Iran of being behind his assassination attempt (done by a white 20 year old) and Israel literally assassinated Hamas's chief negotiator while he was visiting Iran.

It seems like the powers that be are desperate for a war with Iran and will continue beating the drum to build consent.

Reminds me of the build up to the 2003 Iraq invasion (you know, because "they have WMDs")

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by hobo_in_library »

ImHereToVote wrote: post #3

I wonder if it would be possible to get a list of countries that can have influence operations using ChatGPT and countries that can't.

Only countries with dedicated PsyOps divisions are allowed to use ChatGPT for influence operations, obviously

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_operations_(Unit...

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by zmgsabst »

cedws wrote: post #30
stickfigure wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is clear to me that Russia, Iran, North Korea are playing a zero-sum game. Anything that creates chaos in US politics (or European politics) is in their interest. Donald Trump represents chaos.

They want to sow discord. Manipulating US politics in any meaningful way is difficult to do. It's easier to divide and conquer and turn your enemy against itself. In my opinion the West is already doing a good enough job at polarising itself, doesn't need much help from the enemy.

Of course we are:

Domestic enemies came to the same conclusion.

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by lukev »

throw310822 wrote: post #18
simonw wrote: post #15

From a Google search it looks like this is one of the articles in question: https://teorator.com/index.php/2024/08/12/x-censors-trumps-t... I requested the Internet Archive grab this copy: https://web.archive.org/web/20240816210620/https://teorator....

Looks exceedingly good to be Ai-generated. Also, it appears to be slightly pro-Trump, which doesn't sound like in Iran's interest.

Really? Trump has always been much weaker in diplomacy with nations that are historically antagonistic to the US. He'll have a meeting with their leader, let them flatter him, and come away convinced that they're "very nice" and make a lot of concessions.

He's basically an admirer of Putin at this point.

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by TOMDM »

greatgib wrote: post #9

What they don't say on their post but that we can guess and is from interest is that they probably had to spy their user messages to determinate that they used the account for generate content for the influence operation. For sure the purpose is noble, but it is good to remind everyone that everything you type, submit or generate there is not private but could be randomly snooped by strangers!

That or they could store hashes of chunks of output to compare to propaganda in the wild.

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by echoangle »

djaouen wrote: post #22

This is as much an indictment of ChatGPT as it is of the Iranians. According to OpenAI, their product produces output that no one in their right mind would want to read for any purpose.

How is that a bad thing for OpenAI though? It depends on the prompting, I wouldn’t count the ability to generate useless/stupid/misleading content when prompted to do this as a negative.

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by tonetegeatinst »

guerrilla wrote: post #13
katzinsky wrote: post #5

Yeah. Knowing my tools are judging my political positions and could self destruct if the authors disagree just makes me love using my computer. This is why I only use local models these days. EDIT: Out of posts for today but I've been pretty happy with Gemma2. The context is short but the performance is very good and it's easy to disable refusal.

Just curious, which local models?

I know the Facebook model was good. Checkout r/locallamma for guidance, or check the ranking website.

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by dfhvneoieno »

usefulcat wrote: post #37

I'd be more interested in an analysis of the likely intention of the campaign. Is it just an attempt to reduce voter turnout? If so, that doesn't seem all that useful by itself.

Iran wants Democrats, Russia wants Republicans.

It's easy to see which one is more successful. Every time you blame something on Russia, people come out of the woods "explaining" why Russia is actually the victim (Russia is ALWAYS the victim, is what I've learned from this people).

Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation

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Post by dtquad »

throw310822 wrote: post #18
simonw wrote: post #15

From a Google search it looks like this is one of the articles in question: https://teorator.com/index.php/2024/08/12/x-censors-trumps-t... I requested the Internet Archive grab this copy: https://web.archive.org/web/20240816210620/https://teorator....

Looks exceedingly good to be Ai-generated. Also, it appears to be slightly pro-Trump, which doesn't sound like in Iran's interest.

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