These jokers seem like the AI version of "script kiddie" hackers, and OpenAI may be engaging in a bit of humble bragging. It doesn't take considerable investments in time or money to run local LLMs, INCLUDING ChatGPT, where your questions, prompts, and results are not sent home to the mothership, so it's a BS article as to (the real) actors who may or may not be doing this. NOW, if OpenAI or Gemini or LLama, etc, showed how they analyzed social media posts and flagged the ones that were AI generated and the analysis as to WHY the article is flagged, then that would be much more useful, actionable by at least some of the readers and would put the accounts spreading the content (particularly the rebroadcast fluffers) in the spotlight.
Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation
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Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation
#42These jokers seem like the AI version of "script kiddie" hackers, and OpenAI may be engaging in a bit of humble bragging. It doesn't take considerable investments in time or money to run local LLMs, INCLUDING ChatGPT, where your questions, prompts, and results are not sent home to the mothership, so it's a BS article as to (the real) actors who may or may not be doing this. NOW, if OpenAI or Gemini or LLama, etc, sho…
It wouldn't be useful at all, and would only serve to educate malicious actors how to better evade detection.
It's like claiming a search engine open sourcing its ranking algorithm would help people be informed instead of making spammers able to perfectly hijack all the results.
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#43Given that any self hosted open source model would have worked just as well. I can’t see this good faith post as anything more than forwarding open ais long campaign for regulatory capture.
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#44I'd be more interested in an analysis of the likely intention of the campaign. Is it just an attempt to reduce voter turnout? If so, that doesn't seem all that useful by itself.
Iran wants Democrats, Russia wants Republicans. It's easy to see which one is more successful. Every time you blame something on Russia, people come out of the woods "explaining" why Russia is actually the victim (Russia is ALWAYS the victim, is what I've learned from this people).
Russia definitely has a non zero amount of people supporting or apologizing it's actions all around the world.
It's dangerous to assume all of the content you see is simply some shady operation or fake, having controversial opinions on any topic is nothing new, millions of Americans don't believe in the moon landings.
In general I don't think it's a good idea to discuss politics online, and I feel like many talk too much geopolitics but can't even tell the policies or programs of their own city mayor candidates which are way more important for their own lives and directly impacting.
Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation
#45It's hard to take an article like this at face value when they provide zero evidence for any of their claims. This is coming soon after Trump decided to accuse Iran of being behind his assassination attempt (done by a white 20 year old) and Israel literally assassinated Hamas's chief negotiator while he was visiting Iran. It seems like the powers that be are desperate for a war with Iran and will continue beating the…
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Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looks exceedingly good to be Ai-generated. Also, it appears to be slightly pro-Trump, which doesn't sound like in Iran's interest.
Really? Trump has always been much weaker in diplomacy with nations that are historically antagonistic to the US. He'll have a meeting with their leader, let them flatter him, and come away convinced that they're "very nice" and make a lot of concessions. He's basically an admirer of Putin at this point.
The Abraham accords were and are a good development he implemented. The Obama administration in 2015 attempted to bribe Iran into not enriching uranium by effectively paying them $100 billion.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Russia, China, Iran, and Israel https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1670/openai-influence-op...
This doesn’t pass the sniff test. Each of these countries has domestically developed, strong LLMs. And even if they did not, they’d have absolutely no issue running the larger FOSS ones. You don’t need GPT4 to generate political drivel.
It takes a lot of GPU to run the larger FOSS LLMs. The OpenAI API is still the cheapest way to get high-quality LLM generations.
Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation
#48Given that any self hosted open source model would have worked just as well. I can’t see this good faith post as anything more than forwarding open ais long campaign for regulatory capture.
Self-hosting LLMs is expensive at scale. It's cheaper to use VC subsidized model inference like the OpenAI APIs.
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Re: Disrupting a covert Iranian influence operation
#50Given that any self hosted open source model would have worked just as well. I can’t see this good faith post as anything more than forwarding open ais long campaign for regulatory capture.
Self-hosting LLMs is expensive at scale. It's cheaper to use VC subsidized model inference like the OpenAI APIs.
At "scale"? At what scale?