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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan »

MBCook wrote: post #719
brookst wrote: post #448

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's doubtful they'll ever charge for SOS. The "one year, one more year" thing is likely to make the accounting and liability work out. If they had just said "free for the life of the phone" it would have locked them into providing the service for many years, and required revenue deferral for many years. Easier to just under-promise.

That’s kind of what I expect. It will simply be free forever but maybe the other services that they might add in the future, such as iMessage over satellite, will cost extra. “A man got lost in the woods and died because he didn’t pay Apple two dollars a month“ is probably not a headline they want to see. It’s also possible they didn’t know how often it would end up getting used and so they said that is a hedge in ca…

I mean they they don't have to choose between "100% free forever" and "not free and literally kill the people who didn't pay in advance."

They could just leave it enabled for everyone, and then retroactively charge them for a (moderately hefty) 1 year subscription if they end up using it.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by arlort »

Keyframe wrote: post #635
trompetenaccoun wrote: post #428

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Only works in the US and not even in all states. Ridiculous. What's the point of satellites to then be so geo-restricted?

That's Google for you. I bought Pixel 8 Pro when it came out, after I had Samsung (never was into iPhone, my wife has those though). I regretted pretty much right away. Heavy AF compared to Galaxy, cool features US-locked, EU means nothing to that company since it looked like they haven't even applied for licenses for cool shit in EU - had to fake my SIM to be in US just to unlock thermometer etc.. I will not buy any…

> had to fake my SIM to be in US just to unlock thermometer

IIRC that's also available in some EU countries, the issue in this specific case isn't google but the fact that devices which could be construed to offer medical info tend to require certification varying by country

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by esperent »

oneshtein wrote: post #787
peapod91 wrote: post #786

The dominance of the negativity in these comments is noteworthy. Personally, I thought it was a exciting update with major hardware improvements, some compelling AI demos and use cases at a similar price point as the past. Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD has similar impressions. Mostly just curious as to why there are ~0 positive comments here. I suspect could be: 1) anti-google HN bias - perhaps deserved? 2) it's simp…

You see «negative comments» where we see «constructive criticism» and «helpful reviews». It's not a «happy news» site.

> I just hate modern phones, all of them.

First sentence of the current top voted comment. What's constructive about that?

You could argue the rest of the comment makes up for it, but I don't agree. It reads like a standard negative rant against change to me. I don't see much constructive here.

> I just hate modern phones, all of them. I want an adequate one-hand screen size (~6"), a headphone jack, and an even camera bump (just so it lies flat on the table). I love the pixel 8a, the size, curvature and camera bump seems ideal. Ofc they removed a freaking 3.5mm jack, but I can make a compromise here and buy 100 type-c to 3.5mm adapters, but I'm super disappointed with the new 9x series, they are now even more blocky and square-ish which i really don't like, plus no "a" model which is usually looking much better for me than the main one.

> Does anyone know the phone which is small, has a headphone jack, even camera bump and is still buyable to this day?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41242944

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by mmwelt »

zukzuk wrote: post #459
brookst wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regulations don't much care about what's technically possible.

Apple was able to make it work in most "developed" countries (do we have a better term for these countries now?). I guess they're just better at the regulatory game?

One of the more popular terms is now the "Global North"[1].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_Sout...

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by saberience »

peapod91 wrote: post #786

The dominance of the negativity in these comments is noteworthy. Personally, I thought it was a exciting update with major hardware improvements, some compelling AI demos and use cases at a similar price point as the past. Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD has similar impressions. Mostly just curious as to why there are ~0 positive comments here. I suspect could be: 1) anti-google HN bias - perhaps deserved? 2) it's simp…

What qualifies someone as a “top tech reviewer”? It’s a phone for gods sake and some random YouTubers opinion isn’t anymore valid than a random Hackernews commentators opinion.

If we were getting opinions on the latest PhD paper on attention mechanisms than I’d trust someone with a PhD versus a random person, but for getting opinions on the new Google phone? Think for yourself.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by hadlock »

I just want to put my vote in that I'm really glad they're making reasonable sized phones again. Pixel 6, 7 were oversized monstrosities. If pixel 10 is even smaller than the 8, that's fine by me

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by DoingIsLearning »

zooq_ai wrote: post #801
peapod91 wrote: post #786

The dominance of the negativity in these comments is noteworthy. Personally, I thought it was a exciting update with major hardware improvements, some compelling AI demos and use cases at a similar price point as the past. Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD has similar impressions. Mostly just curious as to why there are ~0 positive comments here. I suspect could be: 1) anti-google HN bias - perhaps deserved? 2) it's simp…

I Use Hacker News for technical input. on an average, HN crowd is pretty clueless about a) running a profitable business b) foreseeing technological progress -- say two iterations down the line. c) mass adoption of features On an average, they tend to be elitist and don't represent the average brand popularity (e.g Google, Meta, Amazon). They only mildly upvote technology that helps their extremely privileged life. E…

> They only mildly upvote technology that helps their extremely privileged life.

Your bias is heavily US centric. HN is not SF or SV. Plenty of users in Serbia, Nigeria, Argentina, Brazil, Vietnam, in war thorn Ukraine.

Arguably the average user is above average for their area's COL but to claim everyone is swimming in VC money is as dilusion as the people you want to portrait in your comment.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by od1nos »

gloosx wrote: post #810

I just hate modern phones, all of them. I want an adequate one-hand screen size (~6"), a headphone jack, and an even camera bump (just so it lies flat on the table). I love the pixel 8a, the size, curvature and camera bump seems ideal. Ofc they removed a freaking 3.5mm jack, but I can make a compromise here and buy 100 type-c to 3.5mm adapters, but I'm super disappointed with the new 9x series, they are now even more…

Historically, the a-versions came a year after initial release.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by shiroiushi »

Lammy wrote: post #795
peapod91 wrote: post #786

The dominance of the negativity in these comments is noteworthy. Personally, I thought it was a exciting update with major hardware improvements, some compelling AI demos and use cases at a similar price point as the past. Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD has similar impressions. Mostly just curious as to why there are ~0 positive comments here. I suspect could be: 1) anti-google HN bias - perhaps deserved? 2) it's simp…

> any other ideas? Call it disappointment I guess. No phone from any manufacturer has felt totally “right” to me in years in the way that phones from a decade ago did. It makes sense from a business perspective since smartphones were effectively complete way back then. The business needs a way to justify selling me a new one so it's been a long slow downhill of shit-I-don't-care-about ever since. I especially miss th…

Yeah, exactly. Phones aren't going in a positive direction at all. What I want is a phone with excellent battery life, a great OLED screen, a great camera, plenty of local storage (and expandable with a microSD card), durable/rugged, and fast enough to feel snappy and not laggy. I don't want AI bullshit, stupid features that tie me to cloud services and help advertisers build profiles of me, can't-delete bloatware, stupid features that spy on me, etc. I also don't want to buy a brand-new $1000 phone every year or two when there's nothing wrong with the old one.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by collin128 »

saberience wrote: post #815
peapod91 wrote: post #786

The dominance of the negativity in these comments is noteworthy. Personally, I thought it was a exciting update with major hardware improvements, some compelling AI demos and use cases at a similar price point as the past. Top tech reviewers e.g. MKBHD has similar impressions. Mostly just curious as to why there are ~0 positive comments here. I suspect could be: 1) anti-google HN bias - perhaps deserved? 2) it's simp…

What qualifies someone as a “top tech reviewer”? It’s a phone for gods sake and some random YouTubers opinion isn’t anymore valid than a random Hackernews commentators opinion. If we were getting opinions on the latest PhD paper on attention mechanisms than I’d trust someone with a PhD versus a random person, but for getting opinions on the new Google phone? Think for yourself.

Agree with you re: think for yourselves.

Two things:

1. He's held / seen the phone live, I buy online so won't get a chance to before I decide.

2. He's also held hundreds (thousands?) of phones which I haven't.

While he does have preferences that differ from mine, his perspective is still interesting.

>what qualifies them?

19.3m subscribers on yt

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