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Post by chanux »

scottyah wrote: post #607

I fell for the Google Home, and it has gotten significantly worse over time. My only hypothesis is they found ways to reduce the cost of running the server-side, and it does not benefit the consumer. My Consumer Report: Do not fall for hardware backed by software that costs the seller money to keep running.

I thought it got slower because of Gemini. I have been setting alarms (yeah, I know!) under various conditions and it always worked like magic. It's something I have gotten really REALLY used to now and I'd notice any change.

Also, their AI photo effects never really worked any good for me but I do not own a pro model.

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Post by arunabha »

Drew_ wrote: post #701
fhdsgbbcaA wrote: post #680

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s internal culture that devalues maintenance and product improvement. Launch gets you promo, maintaining gets you laid off. I saw a lot of humble and dedicated engineers get laid off in the first round and it was a lot of people who put systems stability over their own promo. There used to be a place for those people, which is part of what made Google a decent place. That’s gone now, things will continue to break…

People say this a lot about Google, but I'm pretty sure this is true for every big company.

I think the point was that it used to be different at Google in the past(I saw it first hand). People ensuring services functioned correctly after launch were valued and rewarded appropriately.

Over time, the value given to maintenance and smooth operations decreased in reviews, esp for 'non core' services, which inevitably led to engineers doing the rational thing and prioritizing launching features, getting credit and moving on before they got saddled with pesky things like maintenance.

This also had the unintended consequence of politicizing work assignments quite a bit with more savvy political operators getting the most opportunities to launch featu ... er 'deliver impact'.

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Post by nunez »

suddenexample wrote: post #663
nepger21 wrote: post #578

Google really needs to improve the core offering of what a phone is supposed to provide instead of using half baked AI as a selling point. I have been using Pixel 7 for almost the past 2 years. But the amount of basic core issues are crazy. Recently,since the July update, every place where the phone cannot catch network signal, it shutdowns. And with the update, somehow i feel it cannot catch network signal as strong…

Research: consumers are turned off by AI in marketing because it's a vague term that makes no promises about features or usefulness Google: takes deep breath AI AI AI AI AI

Google and Microsoft's marketing strategy for Gemini: the AI will continue until customer sentiment improves

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

mihaic wrote: post #543

I abhor all these phones with a glass back, that look great in the store and then everyone puts an ugly back cover on. I'm still rocking a Pixel 5, which is actually my second Pixel 5. I really like using it without a case. It's light, small, can handle a fall without the back shattering, and I like the matte finish. All I want is a version with more modern specs, but every manufacturer keeps optimizing for the adver…

I miss my Pixel 4. If it were still supported I'd use it.

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

hatsix wrote: post #677
RadiozRadioz wrote: post #646

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many often cite the wireless charging argument, but often forget that there are many people who don't care about wireless charging and would prefer a durable phone.

There are non-glass backings that work with wireless charging. It's not either/or.

picks up plastic phone in store

"feels cheap"

buys iPhone

  - average user

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Post by NelsonMinar »

nepger21 wrote: post #578

Google really needs to improve the core offering of what a phone is supposed to provide instead of using half baked AI as a selling point. I have been using Pixel 7 for almost the past 2 years. But the amount of basic core issues are crazy. Recently,since the July update, every place where the phone cannot catch network signal, it shutdowns. And with the update, somehow i feel it cannot catch network signal as strong…

My Pixel 6 and Pixel 8 have worked remarkably badly as cellular devices. I may well not re-up. The last straw is the aggressive Doze mode. Notifications regularly come in very late, 30+ minutes or more.

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Post by standardUser »

At this point I just want a phone that takes unbelievably amazing photos and videos under all lighting conditions and a phone that can zoom WAY the fuck out when I'm taking selfies.

I don't even pretend to know what else I'm paying for at this point. I just scan reviews until it feels like I've found a phone that will reward my $1000 (or so) with a significantly better camera. Too soon to say if these Pixels will lore me away from my S23 Ultra. Though I will say I am beyond sick and tired of Samsung's bloatware and associated problems and miss the days when I had a Pixel (or, before that, a Nexus). That, plus the fact that my S23 is almost paid off, might compel me to upgrade.

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Post by MBCook »

brookst wrote: post #448
MBCook wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TBF that’s what Apple did, basically. It wasn’t in the initial release. Needed a software update 2 months later or so. You were only supposed to get 1 year (?) of service. But they extended that by a year. Because of that everyone with a qualifying phone is still in the “free” stage so we still don’t know what it will cost. Or when that will start. If ever. I’ve never used it but I like that my iPhone has it. I would…

It's doubtful they'll ever charge for SOS. The "one year, one more year" thing is likely to make the accounting and liability work out. If they had just said "free for the life of the phone" it would have locked them into providing the service for many years, and required revenue deferral for many years. Easier to just under-promise.

That’s kind of what I expect. It will simply be free forever but maybe the other services that they might add in the future, such as iMessage over satellite, will cost extra.

“A man got lost in the woods and died because he didn’t pay Apple two dollars a month“ is probably not a headline they want to see.

It’s also possible they didn’t know how often it would end up getting used and so they said that is a hedge in case it ended up too expensive on their end. Now that they know it’s not they don’t really worry about it.

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Post by mvdtnz »

Beretta_Vexee wrote: post #514
summerlight wrote: post #484

I'm surprised that no media outlet is seriously talking about its on-device inference capability, which is the biggest next thing for LLM. Apple did a better job on its PR here, but they didn't also get all the attention that it deserves. On-device inference improves not just its latency, this also removes a huge chunk of LLM's economical constraints from software companies. The biggest advantage of software is its m…

For years, Google has been promising me a high-performance voice assistant. I find that in 2024 it still can't understand "call mom" and "call my wife's name" unless I'm in a perfectly silent environment. And it usually takes several tries. I'm not going to get carried away with technical announcements.

It's much much worse if you're trying to call someone without an Anglo-Saxon name too. It just outright refuses to call anyone I know with a Thai name, regardless of how I pronounce it.
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