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Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by xigoi »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #106
Reubachi wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same feeling here. It's gotten twice as expensive, which is insane by itself. But worse is the jarring rotation of sponsored advertisers. it's reminiscent of NASCAR. Or, like being a kid forced to watch advertising during TV breaks, wondering why the TV screen istrying to sell me cigarettes. It's maybe a bit social-media-toxic to say that some youtubers are my "favorite people" in that i look forward to their takes o…

> Or, like being a kid forced to watch advertising during TV breaks, wondering why the TV screen istrying to sell me cigarettes. Cigarette commercials have been illegal since 1971.

Good to knoW that the entire world is under a single jurisdiction.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by kelnos »

null0pointer wrote: post #108
noone_youknow wrote: post #16

As a YouTuber, I’m conflicted about this. My main channel (non-tech) is small, but is monetised, and YouTube see fit to throw me a _very_ variable amount of money every month. CPMs are down right now so revenue has tanked along with it, it’ll pick back up at some point, but the variability is itself the pain point. My videos are relatively expensive and time consuming to make, but people seem to find them useful, and…

> Sure many of us also do patreon etc but that’s never really sat right with me personally I'm curious what it is about the Patreon model that doesn't sit right with you? To me it seems like it's both the most respectful monetization strategy to viewers, and provides the creator with a much more stable income than YT ads, YTP shares, or sponsors.

Agreed; I don't get the GP's aversion here. To me, ads -- especially ads embedded in the regular flow of a video -- are one of the most disrespectful things you can do to your audience. Asking for voluntary subscription payments (perhaps with some added perks beyond what you'd get as a free viewer) sounds like the best model possible. People will pay if they find your content valuable and can afford the expense. Sure, there are a lot of people who will freeload, but that's just life. If you don't find that acceptable, then you need to put more of your content behind a paywall.

If you can't make enough money to be satisfied with the Patreon model, and that makes you want to create less, maybe that's the correct outcome.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by kelnos »

lrvick wrote: post #41
noone_youknow wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s great, I’m glad that you’re supporting creators directly and getting value from it too. But unfortunately you’re in the minority in my experience, for every person who does this, there are hundreds who wouldn’t even consider it. For creators making certain kinds of content the “uncensored” and “non-ad-friendly” topics are a great argument for direct sponsorship etc, I definitely agree.

You can also time delay any content . Supporters get access via paid LBRY views or access to unlisted or privately hosted videos right away, and they are published a month later for free on public platforms.

I just don't personally find that sort of thing compelling. For the kinds of videos I watch, it doesn't matter to me if I watch it today or a month from now.

I think paywalled bonus content has the most value. A creator has a lot of control in that sense: if they are not making enough money, they can shift more of their free content behind the paywall. Certainly there's a point where viewers will get mad and leave, and/or what's available for free won't be enough to attract new paid subscribers, but there's still wiggle room.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by kelnos »

efilife wrote: post #55
vouaobrasil wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Don't do your videos for money. You are interrupting users that pay for YouTube premium with ads in the middle of your videos. Set up a way to donate to you on YouTube, channel memberships are an option, they display next to the "subscribe button". You shouldn't work for money either. Just do it for free.

YouTube isn't work and I doubt this person creates videos for a living. I assume this is just extra money this person wants, not needs . Many years ago YouTube was about hobbyists, and nobody complained. I'm sick of the attitude to monetize everything. I listed a few non-intrusive options, just don't be hostile to your viewers shoving them sponsored crap in the middle of videos

> YouTube isn't work

In the beginning of YouTube, true. But nowadays YouTube is work for a lot of people. It's their primary source of income, even. It's pointless to say, "well, that's not how it should be". It is, and that's the reality of the situation.

And, frankly, the production value of a lot of stuff on YouTube is amazing. That doesn't come for free, in the form of recording equipment, set design and purchasing, and just plain old time to write scripts and do post-production work. There's no reason that stuff at that middle quality level (between random guy with a handheld smartphone and professional studio production) shouldn't exist. I think it's amazing that people can make such high quality content, without having to get past e.g. a hollywood studio gatekeeper.

In the past, TV was traditionally paid for through advertising and syndication, and movies through ticket sales, and VHS/DVD/Bluray sales. Nowadays there are so many more ways for people to distribute their creations, and more ways for viewers to compensate them for those creations.

The thing that sucks is that we are still so stuck on this ad-supported model, not that people want to put enough work into their creations that it needs to be a paid full-time job.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by simonmysun »

noone_youknow wrote: post #16

As a YouTuber, I’m conflicted about this. My main channel (non-tech) is small, but is monetised, and YouTube see fit to throw me a _very_ variable amount of money every month. CPMs are down right now so revenue has tanked along with it, it’ll pick back up at some point, but the variability is itself the pain point. My videos are relatively expensive and time consuming to make, but people seem to find them useful, and…

I would rather expect an extension like AdNauseam[1] which automatically play the advertisement muted in background.

[1]: https://adnauseam.io/

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by aembleton »

seanw444 wrote: post #71
wanderingmind wrote: post #49

Sponsorblock is not as blunt a tool as people make it here. You can only block specific type of ads and you can whitelist whole channels which I do for some niche channels I subscribe to. In Android, I use Tubular [1], the NewPipe fork that integrates Sponsorblock and ReturnYoutube Dislike. My only additional request in this awesome app is if we can download the video after snipping out the sponsor block sections. [1…

I've been using NewPipe X which is very similar, but now has comment reply viewing, which I really value. Does Tubular have that now?

What's comment reply viewing? Do you mean viewing the replies to a comment because Tubular can do that.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by StableAlkyne »

simonmysun wrote: post #125
noone_youknow wrote: post #16

As a YouTuber, I’m conflicted about this. My main channel (non-tech) is small, but is monetised, and YouTube see fit to throw me a _very_ variable amount of money every month. CPMs are down right now so revenue has tanked along with it, it’ll pick back up at some point, but the variability is itself the pain point. My videos are relatively expensive and time consuming to make, but people seem to find them useful, and…

I would rather expect an extension like AdNauseam[1] which automatically play the advertisement muted in background. [1]: https://adnauseam.io/

The best part about AdNauseum is it solves the criticism people give ad-blockers: content creators still get paid

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by fngjdflmdflg »

One issue with SponsorBlock is that people use skip to highlight[0] on music, which should be illegal. To me there often is no highlight for music. You need to hear the first part of the piece in order to enjoy the second. And people have different views on what counts as the highlight. I don't even like seeing the skip to highlight color on the scrub bar in videos that are just music. Skip non music[1] is good though.

[0] https://wiki.sponsor.ajay.app/w/Highlight

[1] https://wiki.sponsor.ajay.app/w/Music:_Non-Music_Section

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by xena »

ndriscoll wrote: post #103
labcomputer wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sort of amazed this has to be explicitly stated: Because most YouTube creators (even the hobbyists) are at least partially motivated by money, and if you take away all the money they will likely make less content or stop altogether. I understand that it’s fun to get things for free, but that’s usually not sustainable.

The point is that's fine, and it is perfectly sustainable for people to do things they enjoy for free. It'd perhaps not be sustainable for someone to play video games as a full-time job, but maybe that's okay (or even desirable from a societal resource allocation standpoint)?

Simply make rent, housing, and food free. Then people need not make money for the majority of needs.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by Joe_Cool »

fngjdflmdflg wrote: post #128

One issue with SponsorBlock is that people use skip to highlight[0] on music, which should be illegal. To me there often is no highlight for music. You need to hear the first part of the piece in order to enjoy the second. And people have different views on what counts as the highlight. I don't even like seeing the skip to highlight color on the scrub bar in videos that are just music. Skip non music[1] is good thoug…

You can just turn that off in the options including the marker on the seek bar.

Also when it is bad don't hesitate to downvote. The database is only that good because of user feedback (and some anti-botting measures). You can check hidden segments and votes here: https://sb.ltn.fi/

And messing about with the API is made easy here: https://mruy.github.io/sponsorBlockControl-sveltekit/

You can find this and many more things on the wiki you already linked.

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