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Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by lrvick »

noone_youknow wrote: post #29
Sakos wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I often pay for Patreon to get uncensored videos. Youtube by itself already devalues videos in various ways and avenues like Patreon let creators provide what they actually want to provide, not just what YouTube allows them to.

That’s great, I’m glad that you’re supporting creators directly and getting value from it too. But unfortunately you’re in the minority in my experience, for every person who does this, there are hundreds who wouldn’t even consider it. For creators making certain kinds of content the “uncensored” and “non-ad-friendly” topics are a great argument for direct sponsorship etc, I definitely agree.

You can also time delay any content .

Supporters get access via paid LBRY views or access to unlisted or privately hosted videos right away, and they are published a month later for free on public platforms.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

#42

Post by lrvick »

nerdjon wrote: post #4

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It is not a free web if the creators I watch are being paid off to promote and never criticize corpos in their industry.

Block all ads of all kinds. I do not want to watch advertizer os sponsor friendly creators. I want people talking to me honestly like they might off camera.

We must switch to micro transaction pay-per-view model like LBRY to eliminate all ads and ensure creators get paid better without having their integrity compromised by corpo sponsors.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

#43

Post by ziml77 »

noone_youknow wrote: post #28
PeterStuer wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me state upfront I do understand the desire to make money from a channel, and much of the YT content I enjoy would not exist if that was not possible. But allow me to make a few hopefully nuanced remarks. First of all it is not just the VPNs. Briliants, RSLs etc. that annoy, it is all sponsor reads. Even those channels that try to be creative with it, there's only so many times you can be funny about it, and then…

> But another reason why sponsor reads annoy me is that it breaks the youtube premium deal. I totally get that, and I feel the same way when I see yet another read as a viewer and premium subscriber. I don’t really have an answer (and if I did, I’d be doing it already), but I will say that my (subjective, based on my ad placement strategy and viewer profile) experience is that premium views are worth less than non-pr…

Linus Sebastian has said the exact opposite of that whenever he's discussed the breakdown of where the money that Linus Media Group makes comes from. Premium views are worth more than free views.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

#44

Post by vouaobrasil »

efilife wrote: post #18
noone_youknow wrote: post #16

As a YouTuber, I’m conflicted about this. My main channel (non-tech) is small, but is monetised, and YouTube see fit to throw me a _very_ variable amount of money every month. CPMs are down right now so revenue has tanked along with it, it’ll pick back up at some point, but the variability is itself the pain point. My videos are relatively expensive and time consuming to make, but people seem to find them useful, and…

Don't do your videos for money. You are interrupting users that pay for YouTube premium with ads in the middle of your videos. Set up a way to donate to you on YouTube, channel memberships are an option, they display next to the "subscribe button".

> Don't do your videos for money. You are interrupting users that pay for YouTube premium with ads in the middle of your videos. Set up a way to donate to you on YouTube, channel memberships are an option, they display next to the "subscribe button".

You shouldn't work for money either. Just do it for free.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

#45

Post by PeterStuer »

noone_youknow wrote: post #28
PeterStuer wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me state upfront I do understand the desire to make money from a channel, and much of the YT content I enjoy would not exist if that was not possible. But allow me to make a few hopefully nuanced remarks. First of all it is not just the VPNs. Briliants, RSLs etc. that annoy, it is all sponsor reads. Even those channels that try to be creative with it, there's only so many times you can be funny about it, and then…

> But another reason why sponsor reads annoy me is that it breaks the youtube premium deal. I totally get that, and I feel the same way when I see yet another read as a viewer and premium subscriber. I don’t really have an answer (and if I did, I’d be doing it already), but I will say that my (subjective, based on my ad placement strategy and viewer profile) experience is that premium views are worth less than non-pr…

If I remember correctly the numbers given were 6x more direct payouts for a premium view vs. a free view.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

#46

Post by krapp »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #44
efilife wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't do your videos for money. You are interrupting users that pay for YouTube premium with ads in the middle of your videos. Set up a way to donate to you on YouTube, channel memberships are an option, they display next to the "subscribe button".

> Don't do your videos for money. You are interrupting users that pay for YouTube premium with ads in the middle of your videos. Set up a way to donate to you on YouTube, channel memberships are an option, they display next to the "subscribe button". You shouldn't work for money either. Just do it for free.

We live in a capitalist society, and most people are forced to work to make ends meet. Being able to choose to put in what amounts to full time hours on a passion project isn't a privilege most people have.

You, presumably, wouldn't work for free, why do you insist that artists should entertain you for free?

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by vouaobrasil »

krapp wrote: post #46
vouaobrasil wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Don't do your videos for money. You are interrupting users that pay for YouTube premium with ads in the middle of your videos. Set up a way to donate to you on YouTube, channel memberships are an option, they display next to the "subscribe button". You shouldn't work for money either. Just do it for free.

We live in a capitalist society, and most people are forced to work to make ends meet. Being able to choose to put in what amounts to full time hours on a passion project isn't a privilege most people have. You, presumably, wouldn't work for free, why do you insist that artists should entertain you for free?

> You, presumably, wouldn't work for free, why do you insist that artists should entertain you for free?

You didn't understand my post. I don't insist that artists entertain for free. I was responding to the parent who said "don't make videos for money". I am in fact a full-time content creator.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

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Post by krapp »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #47
krapp wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We live in a capitalist society, and most people are forced to work to make ends meet. Being able to choose to put in what amounts to full time hours on a passion project isn't a privilege most people have. You, presumably, wouldn't work for free, why do you insist that artists should entertain you for free?

> You, presumably, wouldn't work for free, why do you insist that artists should entertain you for free? You didn't understand my post. I don't insist that artists entertain for free. I was responding to the parent who said "don't make videos for money". I am in fact a full-time content creator.

My mistake then.

I encounter that attitude a lot here so I guess I jumped to conclusions.

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

#49

Post by wanderingmind »

Sponsorblock is not as blunt a tool as people make it here. You can only block specific type of ads and you can whitelist whole channels which I do for some niche channels I subscribe to. In Android, I use Tubular [1], the NewPipe fork that integrates Sponsorblock and ReturnYoutube Dislike. My only additional request in this awesome app is if we can download the video after snipping out the sponsor block sections.

[1] https://github.com/polymorphicshade/Tubular

Re: SponsorBlock – skip sponsor segments on YouTube

#50

Post by vouaobrasil »

krapp wrote: post #48
vouaobrasil wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You, presumably, wouldn't work for free, why do you insist that artists should entertain you for free? You didn't understand my post. I don't insist that artists entertain for free. I was responding to the parent who said "don't make videos for money". I am in fact a full-time content creator.

My mistake then. I encounter that attitude a lot here so I guess I jumped to conclusions.

Yeah, I get that!
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