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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by bcook »

bfrog wrote: post #225

I went through many moto/samsung/google phones. Every single one sucked ass after about a year or two. Wasn't a big deal when the phones came with contract renewals. Became a major deciding factor to abandon them when I had to hand over my own cash. If I'm paying 500+ for a device it needs to you know... last more than a few years.

I paid $1000 cash for my Samsung Galaxy S10+ and the 5½+ years with it have been flawless.

I was very hesitant to spend $1000 on my first smartphone but if it can easily last 5 years, I'm impressed.

Even now, I can't think of a reason to upgrade aside from wanting a new, shiny gadget.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by GuB-42 »

nblgbg wrote: post #158

One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriou…

> IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices

These were the Nexus. Pixel phones are definitely consumer devices. Nexus phones were designed to be rather generic, meant to be used as a model for other manufacturers and as a test platform for developers. It was when Android really was open (or at least more than it is today). They were usable phones, even good ones, but without any "personality".

Pixel phones on the other hand advertises exclusive features, and is mostly picture-focused, hence the name, and also AI, but who isn't nowadays. Nexus advertisement was little more than its spec sheet.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by 0x1ch »

nblgbg wrote: post #158

One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriou…

The fact that more than once, you could not call 911 due to a bug, should be enough to convince people that Google doesn't test their products or have any quality control.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by dtx1 »

bitwize wrote: post #325
georgeecollins wrote: post #126

It blows me away that people will spend $1k for a phone when there are good options for $500 or less. I will grant that Google's phone is probably the best. But in my experience the difference in quality does not correlate to the difference in price. Apple has a monopoly and they set price expectations. Also, I think buyers think if you have a cheaper phone strangers may think you are poor. Personally I want people t…

Is there a new, $500 or less, phone with 256 GB of Flash, an unlockabke bootloader, and good GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, or LineageOS support? Oddly enough I end up buying Google phones because I do not wish to put up with Google's shit.

Graphene only supports pixels.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by treyd »

nicbou wrote: post #267
PhasmaFelis wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The win-win solution is to only buy Pixel phones that are several generations old. The kinks are ironed out, they're less than half the price, and for 95%+ of users, they're just as capable as the latest-and-greatest.

They don't get security patches though

Thirdparty roms are very good about backporting patches after Google drops support.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by chimeracoder »

nblgbg wrote: post #158

One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriou…

> One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriously use them as daily drivers. Adding more AI features won't help unless they start taking their customer service seriously!

I've been using the Pixel/Nexus phones for over a decade, and I find this complaint bizarre. I've had issues with the phones (just like I have with my Apple hardware) at times, but nothing like what you're describing.

The real issue with Pixel phones is not that their software or hardware support is worse (it isn't) but the customer support. If my iPhone breaks under warranty, I can walk into an Apple store and get it fixed or replaced immediately. When my Pixel device breaks, even though I live near the flagship Google store, the best Google will do is send me a replacement phone "within 5-10 business days".

The customer support experience is a huge issue, and I wish Google would do something about it. But the other points don't resonate at all.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by creato »

nblgbg wrote: post #158

One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriou…

I switched from pixel to iPhone because I was fed up with bugs. I’m going to switch back to pixel for my next phone because I’m fed up with bugs on iOS. It’s really not better, just a different set of bugs.

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by khaomungai »

nblgbg wrote: post #158

One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriou…

I've had several Pixel phones and using the 6a currently. Never ever had any issues. My strategy is to delay updates for a few days to be not the first one bricking my phone. :)

Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by abawany »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #334
causi wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's been Google phones even since the Nexus days. They review super well then three months after release there's some crazy-ass hardware problem no phone has ever experienced before. Screen discoloration, glass backs cracking while laying flat on a table, power buttons getting stuck, spontaneous camera glass cracking, etc.

My issue is that they are bottom-barrel of repairability. My Nexus phones were described as "designed to fail and impossible to fix" by a repair guy.

But that's not true anymore afaik: they get good repairability scores at ifixit and also have a deal with them to stock repair parts.
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