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Re: Google Pixel 9 Pro

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Post by londons_explore »

eddieroger wrote: post #226
SkyPuncher wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was a major issue that drove me away from Android. In addition to first party bugs, I got tired of 3rd party accessories not working correctly. My theory was iPhone probably got tested on most 3rd party accessories. However, the fragmentation in the Android space meant I’d have no idea what devices they actually tested with. This is further compounded by the fact that Android isn’t really an open platform, at le…

There's also only one Bluetooth stack on Apple's platforms (presumably shared), so testing is more straightforward. And if so inclined, there's also the Made for iPhone program that requires validation, but again that's with one device in two form factors. It's not a fair challenge comparing Android device support because the task is bigger, though Google could probably do some stuff to make that less painful.

Google could just say "Here is our official bluetooth hardware/software. Either use the official hardware/software, or use something else but we will kick you out of the android program if your implementation and ours ever have any kind of difference that is noticeable to a user".

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Post by sandspar »

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #245
georgeecollins wrote: post #126

It blows me away that people will spend $1k for a phone when there are good options for $500 or less. I will grant that Google's phone is probably the best. But in my experience the difference in quality does not correlate to the difference in price. Apple has a monopoly and they set price expectations. Also, I think buyers think if you have a cheaper phone strangers may think you are poor. Personally I want people t…

I usually sell my $1k phone after a couple years so I end up paying much less than $1k in the end, while getting a better phone out of it than had I just bought the $500 phone up front. It blows me away that people actually care how much other people spend on something at all. Want a $50 flip phone? Cool. Want a $1300 fancy fold phone? Also fine. When I had my last kid we got a Snoo bassinet, $1300 or so. Anyone that…

Have you looked into leasing your phone? You pay more per month but always have the latest upgrade. I'm curious about it too and am hoping you've done the numbers on it.

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Post by winwang »

nomel wrote: post #309
fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually sell my $1k phone after a couple years so I end up paying much less than $1k in the end, while getting a better phone out of it than had I just bought the $500 phone up front. It blows me away that people actually care how much other people spend on something at all. Want a $50 flip phone? Cool. Want a $1300 fancy fold phone? Also fine. When I had my last kid we got a Snoo bassinet, $1300 or so. Anyone that…

> $400 investment Why is this word used to describe "pure financial loss" so often when talking about purchased luxury goods? > Investment: the outlay of money usually for income or profit

Because the value the item brought you was worth more than the money you exchanged for it. My Bose QC35s were one of the best investments I've ever made, lasting many years and very many loud plane rides. Or would you consider groceries a "pure financial loss" as well?

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

causi wrote: post #202
nblgbg wrote: post #158

One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriou…

That's been Google phones even since the Nexus days. They review super well then three months after release there's some crazy-ass hardware problem no phone has ever experienced before. Screen discoloration, glass backs cracking while laying flat on a table, power buttons getting stuck, spontaneous camera glass cracking, etc.

My issue is that they are bottom-barrel of repairability.

My Nexus phones were described as "designed to fail and impossible to fix" by a repair guy.

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georgeecollins wrote: post #126

It blows me away that people will spend $1k for a phone when there are good options for $500 or less. I will grant that Google's phone is probably the best. But in my experience the difference in quality does not correlate to the difference in price. Apple has a monopoly and they set price expectations. Also, I think buyers think if you have a cheaper phone strangers may think you are poor. Personally I want people t…

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Post by jeffbee »

itsoktocry wrote: post #263
nblgbg wrote: post #158

One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriou…

> IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriously use them as daily drivers. I've had Pixel 3XL, Pixel 5, Pixel 8, and Pixel Tablet all without issue. I realize that can't be everyone's experience, but the idea that you can't "seriously use" these devices is untrue.

Really? The Pixel 8, my first Pixel, shipped without working USB webcam support, which was one of the advertised launch features. To actually get that feature you had to switch to the beta release track, which of course broke lots of the other things on the phone. Notable things that have been broken for a month or more on the beta track since I owned a Pixel 8 include tap to pay and the unlock screen.

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Post by GZGavinZhao »

roughly wrote: post #201

I'm an iPhone guy, but - there _are_ other designs for phones, right? The squircle corners, the shiny metal band surrounding the matte back, the aqua-pill-shaped buttons, the colors - Google is a $2T company, there's gotta be an industrial designer somewhere in the building or some process for phone design that doesn't take place in Cupertino, right?

My favorite phone design is the Meizu 16 series, especially its white variant (search for Meizu 16s Pro unicorn, it's just gorgeous). The 16 series is the last series before Meizu also succumbed to the "mainstream" designs such as big screen size, punched-hole screens, and weird camera layouts.

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Post by nomel »

renewiltord wrote: post #162
varispeed wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you know if you are paying for it? I signed up, but I have no idea if I am being charged for it. Hope not.

Bottom left. Settings > Manage Subscription. It turns out I have it included till the end of the year because of the 5TB Google One sub https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41237943

The absolute confusion/pain in subscribing and unsubscribing is why I'll never consider a Google AI service in the future.

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Post by freedomben »

queuebert wrote: post #220
nblgbg wrote: post #158

One of the big problems with Pixel phones is their lack of thorough testing. You upgrade and suddenly you encounter strange Bluetooth issues, call problems, or other features that were working fine before but suddenly stop functioning. Tons of people will be complaining about this in forums, and you won't receive any updates to fix them for months. IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriou…

So who does make good phones?

Pixel phones are among the best, and getting better as Google gets more experience shipping hardware. I've had a ton of Pixel phones and there are definitely paper cuts here and there, but:

> IMHO all Pixel phones are just developer devices and you can't seriously use them as daily drivers.

Is ridiculously hyperbolic.

OnePlus phones are also really good when new, although updates often introduce new bugs. When OnePlus was more affordable it was less of an issue, but with current prices I expect several years out of a device that expensive.

Just get a Pixel.

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Post by cvhc »

grogenaut wrote: post #137
georgeecollins wrote: post #126

It blows me away that people will spend $1k for a phone when there are good options for $500 or less. I will grant that Google's phone is probably the best. But in my experience the difference in quality does not correlate to the difference in price. Apple has a monopoly and they set price expectations. Also, I think buyers think if you have a cheaper phone strangers may think you are poor. Personally I want people t…

what are your favorite $500 or less options

I have been trading in my phone every year to get the new Samsung S2x (now S24) model since S21. There were always new model deals plus some regular cashback. I ended up paying It's like a manual phone upgrade plan. Not sure how long it could last. Last year the Google Fi deal wasn't as good and I almost missed the budget target.
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