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Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Got you. I thought medieval work life would be comparable to our modern lives so I've been looking in other corners.

Perhaps true but medieval life expectancy was not particularly great.

I think it was pretty decent once you made it past childhood. I want to say it was around the mid 60s

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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> I don't think by any means that previous generations (women in particular) had it 'easier,' but I think the nature and persistence of low-grade psychological stress we carry now is unique. And our support systems are worse. This is very well said and quite important in my opinion. As a senior GenXer, I grew up during the cold war, and things were looking pretty scary for us (human civilization) for several years in…

Yes, agreed. I think in this industry we ought to sometimes reflect on how hard we expect everyone to work, and how hard we push people who may not always be in situations where they should be pushing. I'm generally a believer that hard work is good and that startups are worth investing considerable time and energy into, and I love my career. But working in this industry has certainly been hard on my health, despite…

I totally get it, best of luck to you and yours.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Stress can cause cancer too and it’s possible stress went up for young people.

or the ability to deal with stress declined

I don't see a reason why the ability to deal with stress declined.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Then GenX would be full of cancer of all sorts. Pesticides, plastics, pollution - you name it, it was way worse back then.

This doesn't correlate with my lived experience. I remember almost everything except yogurt and milk coming in glass containers. My family and friends strongly preferred soda from bottles than cans, and we were lower middle class and we didn't use plastic 2 liters very often. (And several families drank raw milk - I know, the horror ). Nearly the entire condiments aisle is now filled with soybean oil where it nearly…

Glyphosate is far less harmful than any herbicide that was in use before it. That’s why researchers have such a hard time linking it to diseases except in farmers who spray literal metric tons of the stuff. But glyphosate is a red herring - the real nasty shit that is harmful are not herbicides, but pesticides. And what was in use in 70s and 80s is nightmare fuel.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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36 y/o male with stage 4 colon cancer. Diagnosed in 2016. Lifelong triathlete / healthy eater. I think it's easy to write this off and just better screening, but I think that's certainly a necessary, but not sufficient explanation. I'm open to other ideas, but I have to imagine some of this is due to changes in our environment and food supply. plastics everywhere, pesticides in our food, pollution in the air.

30 y/o male with stage 3c testicular cancer. Diagnosis at age 29. I have a very rare type of cancer and this particular type of cancer has increased in numbers for young men.

I thankfully caught mine at stage 1 and had lefty removed just after turning 22

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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This doesn't correlate with my lived experience. I remember almost everything except yogurt and milk coming in glass containers. My family and friends strongly preferred soda from bottles than cans, and we were lower middle class and we didn't use plastic 2 liters very often. (And several families drank raw milk - I know, the horror ). Nearly the entire condiments aisle is now filled with soybean oil where it nearly…

Glyphosate is far less harmful than any herbicide that was in use before it. That’s why researchers have such a hard time linking it to diseases except in farmers who spray literal metric tons of the stuff. But glyphosate is a red herring - the real nasty shit that is harmful are not herbicides, but pesticides. And what was in use in 70s and 80s is nightmare fuel.

That "nasty shit" wasn't in my sheets and underwear and didn't coat the surface of the Earth. The issues related to claims can be equally attributed to the massive funding of even journals, themselves, plus a nearly unlimited budget to fight everything in courts and out-of-court settlements with gag orders - nearly every dirty trick a corporation can do has been done to protect the producers of glyphosate.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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I would wager this is more a function of better/earlier detection than anything. In general deaths from cancer are down considerably. I'm having trouble finding exact stats I want, but believe this is the case for young people as well. Cases of cancer that result in fatality have been and will always be counted pretty close to 100%, since they will eventually seek medical help. Cases of cancer that are less serious a…

> The survival rate of cancer is over 50%. I suppose some people believe it is relieving to merely be walking around maimed, reduced organ functionality, high levels of fatigue, various chronic conditions, and a stressor in the back of one's mind with that never-goes-away nag of "will I be here in 5 years?"

Don't forget the financial burden on you and your family.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Doesn't make sense at all to have 30 something people with cancer, but we see more and more, although the treatment improves. My personal opinion is mandated flame retardants in foams, mattresses and cushions and other plastics. Smokers die less from fire but everybody else breath poison.

How did you come to this conclusion? Why not microplastics, fine particle pollution, noise (urban living around lots of cars and/or heavy industry), mental stress, lack of sleep, lack of healthy connections, lack of time outdoors and healthy exercise, and similar things? Seems weird to me to pick one arbitrary class of chemicals when all of the things I listed have been worsening.

> microplastics, fine particle pollution, noise [..], mental stress, lack of sleep, lack of healthy connections

[..] pesticides, GMOs, the flood of chemicals approved for everyday use, ranging from "soaps" to perfumes, to indoor "purifiers" etc, ultra-processed foods, and the list goes on.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Jesus - you had to force your doc to take it seriously? Like beg for a colonoscopy or something?

My doctors have been like that too. I have to pull their teeth when I want some sort of screening done or want to see a specialist, but because I'm relatively fit, healthy, with no family history of anything "bad", they say my risk of things is low. I don't care. I just want peace of mind. Cost isn't even an issue, I would be willing to pay a decent sum to get regular screenings so I'm not blindsided with some stage…

BTW The American Cancer Society recommends colonoscopy screenings starting at age 45 routinely now if there are not other indicators to start even earlier.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/types/colon-rectal-cancer/dete...

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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This is a bit of a surprise given how the prevalence of smoking and drinking in the younger generations is steadily declining. We also have a lot more effort put into reducing emissions from all industries. The idea that kids of the 70's chain smoking in the smog have lower cancer risk than the teetotaling youth of today is just sad. The article touched on it a bit, but apparently obesity is a huge contributing facto…

lung cancer rates have sharply declined at least https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/lungb.html
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