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Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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I used to be on the freedom side. Now in some areas it's becoming clear to me that we as a population do not have any self control and both sugar addiction and drug addiction is out of control and causing mass suffering

A tax is a disincentive, not a restriction of freedom. As in, if you want that sugar, you will pay extra for it due to the increased strain on the healthcare system you likely will add to down the line. You can still consume as much as you want at the end of the day.

By removing options from people you take responsibility from individuals. Do you stop on red because of possible fine or danger from collison with other vehicle?

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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post #85

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I assume they're talking about the doomscrolling / social media / letting the world dictate your emotions kind of stress.

No, I am talking about the high-stress job and abusive partner kind of stress.

Got you. I thought medieval work life would be comparable to our modern lives so I've been looking in other corners.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

#113
post #67

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Yeah, my personal theory is that plastics and PFAS are going to be the "things we did wrong for too long" for millenials / Gen Z.

Then GenX would be full of cancer of all sorts. Pesticides, plastics, pollution - you name it, it was way worse back then.

This doesn't correlate with my lived experience. I remember almost everything except yogurt and milk coming in glass containers. My family and friends strongly preferred soda from bottles than cans, and we were lower middle class and we didn't use plastic 2 liters very often. (And several families drank raw milk - I know, the horror).

Nearly the entire condiments aisle is now filled with soybean oil where it nearly didn't exist before. And it was a really big deal when McDonald's went away from using animal fat to cook fries in. Now pretty much nothing is cooked in oil from animal fat. This is certainly a change from pretty much the entire history of human food.

Various researchers are pointing out that glyphosate covers nearly the entire surface of the Earth and is found in nearly everything, including clothing and linens. It was not nearly as widespread in the '70s and '80s.

Exposure to various radio and now microwave (5G) frequencies was practically zero compared to what we began being exposed to in the '90s and is now pretty much everywhere.

Personally, I draw the major distinctions in video game technologies with the PlayStation and another later with Xbox Live! (the latter was really most popular with the Xbox 360). Previous technologies we would fairly quickly hit a point where it just got boring so we would go outside and play, most especially pre-NES. While more of a behavior factor, it is very important on pretty much every level except diet that we engaged in physical activity, social interaction, and sunlight.

As a side note, when I've tried to research it I've found that Gen X is experiencing a higher mortality rate than previous generations in pretty much every category. This correlates with my lived experience.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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post #70

I went thru very aggressive cancer treatment a few years ago (am a woman in my late thirties) for a type that was def not lifestyle caused nor hereditary. So far so good. I have received great care but no one has given me so much as a hypothesis as to what caused it. The type I had is rising amongst women under 50. If I had to hypothesize, stress and trauma are large contributors. I don't think by any means that prev…

> I don't think by any means that previous generations (women in particular) had it 'easier,' but I think the nature and persistence of low-grade psychological stress we carry now is unique. And our support systems are worse. This is very well said and quite important in my opinion. As a senior GenXer, I grew up during the cold war, and things were looking pretty scary for us (human civilization) for several years in…

Yes, agreed. I think in this industry we ought to sometimes reflect on how hard we expect everyone to work, and how hard we push people who may not always be in situations where they should be pushing.

I'm generally a believer that hard work is good and that startups are worth investing considerable time and energy into, and I love my career. But working in this industry has certainly been hard on my health, despite ALL my other choices being very "healthy." Leaders have pushed me to ignore my body in order to produce results many times, over prolonged periods of time.

If you don't mind, I won't get into the specific type of cancer here, I'm particularly protective of my ability to remain psychologically positive about it and I don't want to encounter HN-style analysis of my specific type.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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For anyone actually wanting real probabilities, a quick google on colorectal which the article mentions as the most common cancer for young men: "For example, 1 out of every 333,000 15-to-19-year-olds developed colorectal cancer in 1999. Colorectal cancer became more common by 2020, when 1 out of every 77,000 teens" https://www.webmd.com/colorectal-cancer/news/20240515/behind... "The study found that colorectal cance…

By 2020? Interesting elephant in room.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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post #7

This is a bit of a surprise given how the prevalence of smoking and drinking in the younger generations is steadily declining. We also have a lot more effort put into reducing emissions from all industries. The idea that kids of the 70's chain smoking in the smog have lower cancer risk than the teetotaling youth of today is just sad. The article touched on it a bit, but apparently obesity is a huge contributing facto…

Stress can cause cancer too and it’s possible stress went up for young people.

We can safely say that other second order markers of stress have gone up. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/cdc-data-shows-u-s-teen-...

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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It feels like everyday a new paper is published showing either massive levels of compounds that interfere with endocrine system in the blood. Microplastics, being the biggest one. So when I see headlines like this, "Cancer is up in young people." I can't help but sigh and think, this is expected. I'm not sure what the right course of action here is, but do we really want to continue with a model where we continue pum…

> I'm not sure what the right course of action here is, but do we really want to continue with a model where we continue pumping new and unknown compounds into our bodies and the ecosystem with little thought to the downstream impacts?

Well based on how people act, yes I do think we're happy to continue to pump new and unknown compounds into our bodies.

Just take Covid vaccines and Ozempic as recent examples. I'm not here to argue the efficacy or safety of the vaccines, but we all must agree they were new and unknown. That was at least driven by fears of the unknown risk of a novel pathogen, Ozempic is driven by the promise of a miracle cure for obesity.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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post #22

36 y/o male with stage 4 colon cancer. Diagnosed in 2016. Lifelong triathlete / healthy eater. I think it's easy to write this off and just better screening, but I think that's certainly a necessary, but not sufficient explanation. I'm open to other ideas, but I have to imagine some of this is due to changes in our environment and food supply. plastics everywhere, pesticides in our food, pollution in the air.

For you and other people in this thread dealing with this, I humbly offer Dr. Thomas Seyfried's work on the metabolic treatment of cancer [1]. I think it's important to at least give his ideas a look, there are many interviews of him on YouTube that are a good start.

[1] https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/schools/morrissey/departments/biol...

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I am talking about the high-stress job and abusive partner kind of stress.

Got you. I thought medieval work life would be comparable to our modern lives so I've been looking in other corners.

Perhaps true but medieval life expectancy was not particularly great.

Re: Cancer rates are rising in young people

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post #7

This is a bit of a surprise given how the prevalence of smoking and drinking in the younger generations is steadily declining. We also have a lot more effort put into reducing emissions from all industries. The idea that kids of the 70's chain smoking in the smog have lower cancer risk than the teetotaling youth of today is just sad. The article touched on it a bit, but apparently obesity is a huge contributing facto…

Stress can cause cancer too and it’s possible stress went up for young people.

or the ability to deal with stress declined
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