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Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon
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#202I think one of the reasons Apple feels entitled to do this is almost monopolistic US market share. People should stop buying iPhones for this, but it's not hard to foreseen it won't happen.
Apple has a far from monopolistic US market share for mobile devices. They might be one of the largest single vendors, but if I want to go buy a new smartphone that has decent app and service support from the marketplace, I can absolutely do that without giving so much as a penny to Apple.
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#203As a longtime YouTube creator who uses Patreon for financial support, the news is terrible: Patreon informed me that all creators must switch to a monthly subscription schedule instead of the per-creation schedule that I and many other currently use. The whole point of per-creation is that it allows me to take time off, and only charge people when I release something, thus incentivizing me, and being fair to my suppo…
If you're able, my artist friend has had a lot of success running their own site and doing their own payments through PayPal.
How do they deal with the taxes?
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
My assumption would be that if you have a company's app installed it allows them to spam you with marketing notifications for different things. Much harder to do when you can only use emails, because too many emails can get you put into spam.
Companies that send me too many notifications for crap get their notification privledges revoked... Can't Apple users do that too?
It's not just the notifications; it's the other data that can be more easily collected through the app than through a browser.
Browsers can have things like adblockers that keep you from collecting a very valuable commodity: data.
Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon
#205As a longtime YouTube creator who uses Patreon for financial support, the news is terrible: Patreon informed me that all creators must switch to a monthly subscription schedule instead of the per-creation schedule that I and many other currently use. The whole point of per-creation is that it allows me to take time off, and only charge people when I release something, thus incentivizing me, and being fair to my suppo…
If you're able, my artist friend has had a lot of success running their own site and doing their own payments through PayPal.
1. Building and running your own site is a lot more work than using Patreon.
2. Now you're at PayPal's tender mercies, which... well, you do you, but I wouldn't advise it.
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Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon
#207I like being able to cancel subscriptions from the App Store, it’s a huge advantage because companies will usually try to make it difficult to cancel.
Will you still like it enough that you're willing to pay a 30% premium as more and more services start passing the Apple Tax on to the consumer? This is why I love capitalism!
Unequivocally, yes. I already do so.
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Think bigger, Apple Intelligence will now detect that you are ordering a new TV over the phone and they will want their cut.
Apple doesn't charge 30% for physical good sold through apps on ios.
That's an interesting idea.
What if, instead of 'subscribing' for $10, you purchase a grain of sand for $10.
The grain of sand is available for collection from somewhere, doesn't matter where because nobody would bother to collect it. Your physical purchase comes with free access to digital content.
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#209Not a fan of Apple's policy, but I am a fan of consistency.
It was unfair that Patreon was able to operate on the App Store without paying this 30% cut, it basically gave them a monopoly that no similar Patreon-like platform could compete with.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
I love Apple stuff. I'm all in, iPads, iPhones, AirPods, Apple TVs, HomePods various *Books everywhere. I wish Patreon had more apps. It's a pain to watch videos on my TV. I have to mirror my iPad and keep tapping the screen to keep it from locking and ending the session. But they're being forced to use a payment platform that they don't want to use and have to alter/drop one of their best features to do it. Feels li…
It sounds like the problem is that you're using a combination of devices that makes it unusually hard to just play a video from not-your-TV on your TV.
Or, Apple could stop coercing Patreon into setting 30% of donations on fire and Patreon could make the Apple TV app. Everyone wins.
Apple should have a carve out for small donations/creator support just like physical goods.