never build your house on rented land eh.
Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon
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Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
The App Store model was specifically implemented and approved by Steve Jobs. There's old internal e-mails from him complaining about Amazon's reader app making it too easy to buy books without paying the (increasingly literal) Apple Tax. In fact, the reason why antitrust lawsuits seem to never stick to Apple is because all the mens rea was stored in the mind of a guy who tried to cure his pancreatic cancer with fruit…
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Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon
#173No mention of suing Apple, no mention of reducing their cut. Doesn't really seem like Patreon has got creators backs.
I'm sure Patreon is just itching to take on the wealthiest company's legal department. Even the wealthiest nation states are struggling to reign this in.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The US will let corproations do whatever they want until they are 1990s Microsoft-level dominant. *The US will let corporations do whatever they want while they are giving "gifts" and "gratuities" to the relevant judges.
while they are giving "gifts" and "gratuities" to the relevant judges There is a lot of corruption in the US. So yes, at times, they will allow that too. But in this case, the commenter was correct. We can't be going into courts of law making poop up. Going into a court of law and saying that a company with 27% market share in phones and 13% market share in PCs is a "monopoly" is almost on the level of being insultin…
Literally majority control has never been a requirement to be a monopoly.
Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon
#175The world where Apple is just completely fine with Apple users paying $13 instead of $10 for a subscription if they do it through an app is an interesting one. Obviously this makes a lot of money for them but when you think about it they must think very little of their customers treating them with disrespect like this. This is how 'Tim Cook's Apple' should be remembered.
The App Store model was specifically implemented and approved by Steve Jobs. There's old internal e-mails from him complaining about Amazon's reader app making it too easy to buy books without paying the (increasingly literal) Apple Tax. In fact, the reason why antitrust lawsuits seem to never stick to Apple is because all the mens rea was stored in the mind of a guy who tried to cure his pancreatic cancer with fruit…
Not that I think Steve Jobs was a super nice guy, but he clearly cared about Apple's brand, including the part of about users and developers not thinking of them rapacious and hostile, which is sort of how I (and many others) view their pricing model today. I like to think he'd have seen how bad this choice has played out for Apple's brand and changed his position by now, if he were still around.
Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon
#176What advantage does the Patreon app offer to iOS users that the Patreon website is unable to offer? Why does Patreon even need an app?
Being able to consume Patron-exclusive content on the go, probably.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Patreon doesn't currently and doesn't want to us Apple's infrastructure. They're being "forced" to do so, hence this post.
Putting it in quotes is misleading, they are actually being forced: > Apple has also made clear that if creators on Patreon continue to use unsupported billing models or disable transactions in the iOS app, we will be at risk of having the entire app removed from their App Store.
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Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon
#178No mention of suing Apple, no mention of reducing their cut. Doesn't really seem like Patreon has got creators backs.
Their cut is 8%.
Apple's cut is 30%.
If Patreon went to 0%, creators will still be getting 22% less.
What would, according to you, be a good reduction on Patreon's side?
Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're able, my artist friend has had a lot of success running their own site and doing their own payments through PayPal.
Am I misunderstanding, that PayPal can workaround Apple's payment rules which Patreon is complying with?
As long as you're not using the paypal app on an apple device
Re: Apple's requirements are about to hit creators and fans on Patreon
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're able, my artist friend has had a lot of success running their own site and doing their own payments through PayPal.
Am I misunderstanding, that PayPal can workaround Apple's payment rules which Patreon is complying with?
You are misunderstanding, the suggestion is to do it yourself instead of using patreon.