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Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by appel »

Peanuts99 wrote: post #301
nullhole wrote: post #84

This made me think of one thing that I've wanted to see for a long time with browsers: split-pane view. In other words, the ability to see two browser sessions, side-by-side, with a vertical split between them. Two viewports, each with their group of tabs. The same type of view you can get in, for example, Notepad++ with its "Tab>Move to Other View", or Visual Studio's "Tab>New Vertical Document Group". I frequently…

Edge has this, and vertical tabs too.

I miss Edge. I might still be using it if it wasn't for uBlock Origin and Manifest v3.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by amelius »

oblio wrote: post #304
iamtedd wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

6. It's the only alternative if you want to keep UI elements out of your title bar.

7. Vertical tabs can easily have nesting (subtrees), just like those file manager left hand side windows. So you can structure your tabs better.

Theoretically also possible with horizontal tabs.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by ehaughee »

replete wrote: post #319

I tried it out and it seems clear that vertical tabs without titles create too much friction for daily driving a browser where you have many tabs open, hover thumbnails or not. For a few years I have thought that Firefox could gain market share by doing more with the browser UI, steal a few ideas from Arc Browser for instance. There's a lot of value to be added in the UI for sure. Asking users what they want and then…

I had the same issue but it turns out you can expand them to show the titles by clicking the "side bar" button that, for me, was left of my address bar. Odd default but this is in a nightly release and others have already provided feedback to them on this.

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Post by JohnFen »

wonger_ wrote: post #260
JohnFen wrote: post #199

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> Different people have different needs, so it is useful to distinguish between the two. I agree entirely. I don't use the bookmark facilities in the browser at all, because I prefer using separate a bookmark server that I run. That way my bookmarks are available from any machine using any browser that happens to be available. But I do use tabs. Not to the extent that they need management, though -- I rarely have mor…

What do you use for a bookmark server?

online-bookmarks, by Stefan Frech.

http://www.frech.ch/online-bookmarks/, although I haven't been there for years and it is timing out for me now, so I'm not sure if it's still alive.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by graynk »

Really glad to see native support for this being worked on, however in its current state it's unusable for me and I'll continue using Sideberry. I constantly use tab grouping and I want to see at a glance what the tab is about, so having text title be visible is a must - having just favicons won't cut it when I have 20 GitHub and 10 StackOverflow links open.

UPD: I saw that there's a way to enable text titles - that's much better. Still, without grouping it would be too painful to use for me.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by bloopernova »

mikae1 wrote: post #111
muwtyhg wrote: post #68

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Another former Tree Style Tabs user, now on Sideberry with no regrets. I am excited that FireFox is working this in by default so I don't have to keep fiddling with userChrome.css to get rid of the top tab bar.

Looks like we won't have nesting in Firefox's implementation which made it kinda pointless to me.

So they've copied Edge's poor implementation of vertical tabs. Blech.

Hey, look on the bright side: maybe chromium will get vertical tabs soon!

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by rimunroe »

pxc wrote: post #277
rimunroe wrote: post #226

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That's a fair point and I'm probably just being overly touchy. I have ADHD-C and (perhaps unsurprisingly) favor ADHD-* nomenclature for distinguishing inside the umbrella. I think a large part of my aversion to "ADD" is because in the past I've mostly heard it used by people who saying they're "so ADD" when describing normal behavior (the same way people refer to being "OCD about X").

'ADD' does seem more likely to be used in that flippant way by people who don't have it, but IME ADHDers who self-describe with the term 'ADD' are just older, and for whatever reason have some kind of identity attachment to the nomenclature that was current when they were diagnosed.

That makes sense. I think the earliest evaluation I have is a 1996 one (probably for school accommodations) which uses "ADHD". This tracks with the 1987 terminology switch.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by nozzlegear »

Shadowed_ wrote: post #266

I don't care much about vertical tabs but what I want from tabs is automatic grouping by site. I'm surprised nobody made this. I know there are extension supporting grouping but i have never seen any that automatically groups by website.

It's probably not helpful to you since it's a different browser, but Safari has this. Right click on any tab in its vertical tabs list and choose Arrange Tabs By -> Website.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by cywick »

abhinavk wrote: post #100
phartenfeller wrote: post #2

A screenshot of how it looks would have been helpful. I guess this is in response to Arc browsers design. https://arc.net/

Edge and Vivaldi had vertical tabs as native functionality before Arc even existed. Firefox also had it via an extension.

...and Vivaldi had vertical tabs as native functionality before Edge even existed (and about six years before Edge implemented it).

The only other browser (to my knowledge) that had native tabs earlier than Vivaldi was the original Opera browser, which was eventually killed, which in turn led to people leaving the company and creating Vivaldi.

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Post by sozforex »

nine_k wrote: post #159
Retr0id wrote: post #86

I used to be a tree-style-tabs power user but at some point I went back to regular tabs. I find that the amount of horizontal tab space is pretty close to the actual number of things I can usefully have open at once. Seeing the tabs get "squished" is my reminder to close the ones I no longer need. I was using the tab-state as a sort of short-term working memory and I don't think it was doing me any favours, particula…

I actively use tree style tabs, and have dozens to hundreds. With auto tab discard, it's not taxing. This is because I basically use tabs as bookmarks relevant to a project or subject area. Bookmarks are also tree-structured, but are much more high-ceremony to create. To my mind, tabs and bookmarks should meld into one. If you don't close a tab actively, it stays deactivated, its tree likely gets collapsed until need…

Recommend you to check out Sideberry [it is, I think, just outright better than tree style tabs].
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