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Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by encom »

jorvi wrote: post #194
KaiMagnus wrote: post #20

Found a recent screenshot of it on Reddit. Looks good, I hope it has similar nesting like Tree Style Tab though. In my opinion that is still the best implementation of this idea across all browsers. Firefox' UI has kinda stagnated. It's not like other browsers are far ahead – Chrome doesn't have vertical tabs either – but it does have groups and profiles. They really need to get out of this stale and boring state and…

> Firefox' UI has kinda stagnated. It's not like other browsers are far ahead – Chrome doesn't have vertical tabs either Brave has had vertical tabs for.. more than half a year now. Maybe a year? On top of that it has a sidebar, it has a built-in adblocker, the rest of the settings are more hardened than default Firefox, they do tonnes of research ( https://brave.com/research/ ), including really cool one's like Suga…

I've liked Vivaldi a lot, including it's support for vertical tabs which I consider essential at this point. And they don't constantly mess around with the UI for no reason, unlike Chrome and Firefox. My main major gripe with it, is that it's closed source. I can see Brave is at least MPL, so I think I'll take a look at it.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by persnickety »

akkartik wrote: post #222
persnickety wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using Firefox. I keep running into the problem of not being able to find the website I visited. If the concept is not in the URL or the page title, it might as well not exist in the history. I run into the problem of disappearing documents. Neither bookmarks nor tabs provide persistence. There are online services which save documents, but I don't want to rely ona third party to keep my stuff. I often want to anno…

I can totally relate to all of that. My current approach to it is to fill in the gaps in browsers using other tools. Minimize dependence on both tabs and bookmarks since they suck so much. An editor containing my notes open next to the browser. Making copies of things I care about (and giving them good backups) as it's become clear that we can't depend on anything to last out in the world. I've actually started to th…

Multiple tools from multiple people make it less likely that the entire ecosystem is going to collapse, but makes it likelier that any one tool will stop working.

But that's not even my main problem. Integration is. Integration consolidates ideas in ways that can be packaged and spread to others, increasing the mind share of the paradigm. Unless a good solution is integrated, it will be the domain of a few hardcore adherents. Once an integrated solution appears, it will become resilient only by the virtue of being popular and cared about (I guess as long as it's free software).

The flip side is that a modern web browser integrates so many things not core to any data management idea that few dare experiment with it.

I'm curious about the Arc browser, but I won't bet my workflows on it unless it becomes open source.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by ss48 »

eviks wrote: post #221
dustincoates wrote: post #64

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I really, really want to like Vivaldi, but it's just so slow for me on Windows. It has a similar problem on Linux, though a restart a few times a day solves it.

Yeah, performance is its biggest downside. Is it slow with a fresh profile? It can become suprisingly slow as session files grow, but cleaning it can revert some of that

Yeah. I found out that a Tabs > Memory Saver setting was disabled. Once I enabled that, the performance improved somewhat.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by __david__ »

user_7832 wrote: post #217
__david__ wrote: post #165

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You must not had ADD :-). I currently have 2630 tabs in my main window (I admit I may need to prune that down _just a bit_). But that many tabs can only happen with a vertical tab-bar. I started with tree-style tabs but I'm now using "Sideberry" which seems to be a little nicer.

Hey fellow tab hoarder! I "only" have 744 tabs open right now (in Edge). Though chrome, firefox, brave, arc, and supermium have a few hundred each... (they've been force closed by task manager so my laptop still technically runs haha). It's funny finding fellow tab hoarders online, people rarely hit the thousands - you're pretty much the first person I've encountered who's got more tabs open than me. Btw what's your…

I've got a recent macbook. I use Firefox which lazily load tabs which makes it fairly efficient. I also use "Auto Tab Discard" so tabs unload quickly to keep memory down long term. My Firefox is currently using 6GB of RAM. For comparison I also have Chrome open with about 15 tabs and it's taking 4GB.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by heraldgeezer »

phartenfeller wrote: post #2

A screenshot of how it looks would have been helpful. I guess this is in response to Arc browsers design. https://arc.net/

>I guess this is in response to Arc browsers design. https://arc.net/

What age are you?

How long have you been using computers?

Sorry to be this blunt, but I am asking as Firefox has had addons for vertical tabs for a long time.

Vivaldi, Edge, Brave all have vertical tabs.

Opera Presto was first.

Why even mention this Arc? I feel like you just jumped on some hype train and you have been using Google Chrome and just recently found out about vertical tabs. Good for you but it is not a new development.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by heraldgeezer »

osbulbul wrote: post #6

I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional browsers but they are not supporting vertical tabs like arc did. And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. So we are lonely in the dark :)

???

Edge, Brave, Vivaldi have native vertical tabs built in.

Firefox now too.

Opera Presto was first way before them all.

Why are you and another comment mention some no-name flashy browser?

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by encom »

jermeh wrote: post #92
nullhole wrote: post #84

This made me think of one thing that I've wanted to see for a long time with browsers: split-pane view. In other words, the ability to see two browser sessions, side-by-side, with a vertical split between them. Two viewports, each with their group of tabs. The same type of view you can get in, for example, Notepad++ with its "Tab>Move to Other View", or Visual Studio's "Tab>New Vertical Document Group". I frequently…

Arc browser does this, you should check that out

Haha, Arc requires an account to use, wtf?

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by Tagbert »

quibono wrote: post #11

Just my personal 2c. I've long been a big fan of Sidebery for vertical tab management, so I was expecting something closer to that than what I got. The vertical tab view does work, although it seems pretty basic. E.g. there's no way to group any of the tabs or modify the display style. By default the tabs come in quite "chunky" as well. Also, on another note, the toggles at the top of the sidebar keep restarting for…

Tab Groups is another feature that FF recently prioritized in their roadmap. I would expect it to be integrated with this feature.
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