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Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

#11

Post by quibono »

Just my personal 2c.

I've long been a big fan of Sidebery for vertical tab management, so I was expecting something closer to that than what I got. The vertical tab view does work, although it seems pretty basic. E.g. there's no way to group any of the tabs or modify the display style. By default the tabs come in quite "chunky" as well.

Also, on another note, the toggles at the top of the sidebar keep restarting for me in nightly. I keep unchecking most of them since I don't need any Chatbot integrations or anything like that, but the selection doesn't stick.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

#12

Post by warkdarrior »

sccxy wrote: post #8
osbulbul wrote: post #6

I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional browsers but they are not supporting vertical tabs like arc did. And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. So we are lonely in the dark :)

Edge is stable and has vertical tabs and split view support.

Dude, I cannot use a Microsoft product even if it has the functionality I prefer.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

#13

Post by twobitshifter »

osbulbul wrote: post #6

I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional browsers but they are not supporting vertical tabs like arc did. And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. So we are lonely in the dark :)

Edge even has vertical tabs now. There are always add-ons, but I agree this should he a first class feature in all browsers.

The annoying thing about the vertical tabs in Edge is that Microsoft eliminated the vertical taskbar option in Windows 11. One step forward and two steps back.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by pantulis »

osbulbul wrote: post #6

I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional browsers but they are not supporting vertical tabs like arc did. And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. So we are lonely in the dark :)

Most browsers except Chrome have some sort of vertical tabs support.

- Safari (Mac) has a vertical tabs, but a very confusing UI, mixing Profiles, Windows and Tab Groups (only 1 level).

- Edge has Workspaces and Vertical Tabs, along with Groups (only 1 level).

- Chrome does not have vertical tabs and has 1 level groups

- Vivaldi has vertical tabs and groups, not sure how many levels of grouping.

- Firefox has Containers and Vertical Tabs (today), but for best results you still need something like Tab Stash, Sideberry or TST.

- Orion Browser (Mac) has the best UI imho and allows for grouping tabs at as many levels as you want, but you cannot have proper "folders", only nested tabs.

- Arc gets everything right, in my opinion, but I do not specially care much for the candy UI.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

#16

Post by radlad »

doix wrote: post #5
phartenfeller wrote: post #2

A screenshot of how it looks would have been helpful. I guess this is in response to Arc browsers design. https://arc.net/

> I guess this is in response to Arc browsers design. https://arc.net/ It's funny how we've gone full cycle. Early versions of Firefox get vertical tabs because the plugin system is very rich and you could do whatever you wanted with XUL. Firefox quantum comes around and kills XUL based extensions, vertical tabs are dead. Arc revives an ancient idea as something new and hip, firefox "responds" by reviving the very th…

AFAIK, Tree Style Tab still exists?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

#17

Post by mpawelski »

Vertical tabs are fine, but this seems like catching up up with the other browsers.

I wished Firefox had natively supported tabs like in "Tree Style Tab" extensions. The extension is great, but out of the box it breaks some assumptions where the tabs appear and how they behave. I alway have to figure out which option to change after I install it. Having something native and polished would be a huge selling point for Firefox.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

#18

Post by Y_Y »

phartenfeller wrote: post #2

A screenshot of how it looks would have been helpful. I guess this is in response to Arc browsers design. https://arc.net/

I use Edge for work and the vertical tabs with grouping works really nicely. On the other hand Arc's website made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Unfortunately it does indeed seem like that's what Firefox wants to ape.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

#20

Post by KaiMagnus »

Found a recent screenshot of it on Reddit. Looks good, I hope it has similar nesting like Tree Style Tab though. In my opinion that is still the best implementation of this idea across all browsers.

Firefox' UI has kinda stagnated. It's not like other browsers are far ahead – Chrome doesn't have vertical tabs either – but it does have groups and profiles. They really need to get out of this stale and boring state and innovate more, so I'm glad they finally found some time to do this.

https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1emmfvb/ive_just_f...

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