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Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

#171

I never cared about vertical tabs, but I know that this is something that many people have wanted for a very long time. How long has this been actively in the works? Is it just a coincidence that this finally got done only after all the negative press Firefox got following their pivot to becoming an AdTech company which generates revenue through the constant surveillance of its users?

The meta bug was created 3 months ago: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1894060

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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I used to be a tree-style-tabs power user but at some point I went back to regular tabs. I find that the amount of horizontal tab space is pretty close to the actual number of things I can usefully have open at once. Seeing the tabs get "squished" is my reminder to close the ones I no longer need. I was using the tab-state as a sort of short-term working memory and I don't think it was doing me any favours, particula…

I actively use tree style tabs, and have dozens to hundreds. With auto tab discard, it's not taxing. This is because I basically use tabs as bookmarks relevant to a project or subject area. Bookmarks are also tree-structured, but are much more high-ceremony to create. To my mind, tabs and bookmarks should meld into one. If you don't close a tab actively, it stays deactivated, its tree likely gets collapsed until need…

I do this too; have you found effective ways to tell firefox to maybe chill on eating all memory? I find if I don't restart ~1/week, it will end up reserving ~32GB of RAM for itself, which is just absurd.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

#174

Found a recent screenshot of it on Reddit. Looks good, I hope it has similar nesting like Tree Style Tab though. In my opinion that is still the best implementation of this idea across all browsers. Firefox' UI has kinda stagnated. It's not like other browsers are far ahead – Chrome doesn't have vertical tabs either – but it does have groups and profiles. They really need to get out of this stale and boring state and…

Great now they just need to add back a dedicated grab-zone along the top of the window

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Maybe (probably?), but back when I worked at Mozilla in ~2010 "Tree Style Tabs" was one of the most popular add-ons. Here's a screenshot of what the feature looks like: https://www.ghacks.net/2024/06/25/you-can-try-vertical-tabs-...

They unfortunately ruined TST with the switch to WebExtensions because it could no longer replace the top tab bar. There were hacks you could do by modifying something in your Firefox profile directory. Bizarre to me that they didn't take TST's popularity as a hint of supporting vertical tabs as a native feature until almost 7 years later.

I want to say they actually put some work in to allow TST to still work when they transitioned to quantum as it was a popular extension.

I got the impression they were eventually going to add back in the horizontal tab bar disable as well but if that was even true they clearly forgot about it. I've been using the userChrome hacks for close to 7 years now.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Can’t you change the user profile in the command line with a flag? Surprised it takes this long to implement that in a gui fashion.

There's already a GUI (launch firefox with the --profileManager command line flag), but it's very barebone.

This flag and the UI seems to go back to (at least) Netscape 7 in 2002, btw.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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I wish all browsers has first class vertical tabs support and split view. I am really tired of resource hog, unstable arc. Want to return back to traditional browsers but they are not supporting vertical tabs like arc did. And arc turn its face to AI instead of stability (I guess) because of investors. So we are lonely in the dark :)

Most browsers except Chrome have some sort of vertical tabs support. - Safari (Mac) has a vertical tabs, but a very confusing UI, mixing Profiles, Windows and Tab Groups (only 1 level). - Edge has Workspaces and Vertical Tabs, along with Groups (only 1 level). - Chrome does not have vertical tabs and has 1 level groups - Vivaldi has vertical tabs and groups, not sure how many levels of grouping. - Firefox has Contain…

IIRC very early versions of Chrome actually had native vertical tabs and then they removed the feature at some point.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Well, turn off JavaScript in Chrome and you back to Chrome being faster. Turning off JS is obviously not a solution when the complaint is that (assuming the same amount of work) Chrome is faster for some JS.

NoScript doesn't turn off javascript. It allows you to selectively disable some scripts while whitelisting others. You can't use much of the modern web without JS but you can neuter the dozens of trackers and ad bloat some sites insist on running on your computer.

I'm well aware of what NoScript does, I'm already using it. It seems you're missing the point of the comparison.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

#180

This made me think of one thing that I've wanted to see for a long time with browsers: split-pane view. In other words, the ability to see two browser sessions, side-by-side, with a vertical split between them. Two viewports, each with their group of tabs. The same type of view you can get in, for example, Notepad++ with its "Tab>Move to Other View", or Visual Studio's "Tab>New Vertical Document Group". I frequently…

Edge does that
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