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Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by mikae1 »

muwtyhg wrote: post #68
buo wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the best vertical tabs implementation in firefox is Sidebery. The use of "panes" to group tabs is brilliant. Older versions were buggy, but version 5 has been rock solid for me. https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery

Another former Tree Style Tabs user, now on Sideberry with no regrets. I am excited that FireFox is working this in by default so I don't have to keep fiddling with userChrome.css to get rid of the top tab bar.

Looks like we won't have nesting in Firefox's implementation which made it kinda pointless to me.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by rpncreator »

kbrosnan wrote: post #97
nullhole wrote: post #84

This made me think of one thing that I've wanted to see for a long time with browsers: split-pane view. In other words, the ability to see two browser sessions, side-by-side, with a vertical split between them. Two viewports, each with their group of tabs. The same type of view you can get in, for example, Notepad++ with its "Tab>Move to Other View", or Visual Studio's "Tab>New Vertical Document Group". I frequently…

OS window managers do a better job of that. Split view inside the browser has some thorny issues around making sure the user knows what resource they are interacting with. There is a lot of complexity when it comes to focus/blur in HTML, CSS, JS, etc.

Unpopular opinion: Tab management in browsers originally addressed the shortcomings of OS window management (see Windows XP and IE6, and the original Google Chrome tiling capability replicated into Windows 10/11 OS window management.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by ReadCarlBarks »

nullhole wrote: post #84

This made me think of one thing that I've wanted to see for a long time with browsers: split-pane view. In other words, the ability to see two browser sessions, side-by-side, with a vertical split between them. Two viewports, each with their group of tabs. The same type of view you can get in, for example, Notepad++ with its "Tab>Move to Other View", or Visual Studio's "Tab>New Vertical Document Group". I frequently…

You can support feature requests on Mozilla Connect: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/split-screen-tab-in-tab...

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by slightwinder »

buo wrote: post #34
KaiMagnus wrote: post #20

Found a recent screenshot of it on Reddit. Looks good, I hope it has similar nesting like Tree Style Tab though. In my opinion that is still the best implementation of this idea across all browsers. Firefox' UI has kinda stagnated. It's not like other browsers are far ahead – Chrome doesn't have vertical tabs either – but it does have groups and profiles. They really need to get out of this stale and boring state and…

I think the best vertical tabs implementation in firefox is Sidebery. The use of "panes" to group tabs is brilliant. Older versions were buggy, but version 5 has been rock solid for me. https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery

How do panes scale for many groups? Can you manage 20, 30 panes? Or does it become annoying at this amount?

Sidebery is nice, but it's missing an API allowing other addons to interact with it. This is a big benefit of Tree Style Tabs, especially as you can even exploit it as a user.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by int32 »

nullhole wrote: post #84

This made me think of one thing that I've wanted to see for a long time with browsers: split-pane view. In other words, the ability to see two browser sessions, side-by-side, with a vertical split between them. Two viewports, each with their group of tabs. The same type of view you can get in, for example, Notepad++ with its "Tab>Move to Other View", or Visual Studio's "Tab>New Vertical Document Group". I frequently…

The Arc browser (macOS and Windows) has exactly that feature

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

codazoda wrote: post #96
nullhole wrote: post #84

This made me think of one thing that I've wanted to see for a long time with browsers: split-pane view. In other words, the ability to see two browser sessions, side-by-side, with a vertical split between them. Two viewports, each with their group of tabs. The same type of view you can get in, for example, Notepad++ with its "Tab>Move to Other View", or Visual Studio's "Tab>New Vertical Document Group". I frequently…

On a Mac I use Rectangle Pro for something similar, snapping my windows next to each other. It's not perfect but it does allow multiple sets of tabs at once.

I use yabai on Mac, coming from AwesomeWM on Linux. Never tried Rectangle, any idea how it compares?

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by Numerlor »

AzzyHN wrote: post #106
nullhole wrote: post #84

This made me think of one thing that I've wanted to see for a long time with browsers: split-pane view. In other words, the ability to see two browser sessions, side-by-side, with a vertical split between them. Two viewports, each with their group of tabs. The same type of view you can get in, for example, Notepad++ with its "Tab>Move to Other View", or Visual Studio's "Tab>New Vertical Document Group". I frequently…

Edge has this, though I have no idea why you wouldn't just open a second window...

The mode that opens all links from one pane in the other pane is useful at times, and wouldn't really be achievable with just separate windows

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by TylerE »

semi-extrinsic wrote: post #117
codazoda wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a Mac I use Rectangle Pro for something similar, snapping my windows next to each other. It's not perfect but it does allow multiple sets of tabs at once.

I use yabai on Mac, coming from AwesomeWM on Linux. Never tried Rectangle, any idea how it compares?

It's not a window manager, but a tool for doing various things to windows triggered by hotkeys.

Re: Firefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out

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Post by ReadCarlBarks »

attendant3446 wrote: post #83
KaiMagnus wrote: post #20

Found a recent screenshot of it on Reddit. Looks good, I hope it has similar nesting like Tree Style Tab though. In my opinion that is still the best implementation of this idea across all browsers. Firefox' UI has kinda stagnated. It's not like other browsers are far ahead – Chrome doesn't have vertical tabs either – but it does have groups and profiles. They really need to get out of this stale and boring state and…

Firefox has profiles. It's just not very user-friendly. But Chrome tabs don't even have horizontal scrolling. If you work with, say, more than 10 tabs, Chrome squashes them, and the more tabs you have open, the less usable it becomes. Meanwhile, Firefox has horizontal scrolling and neat (geeky) options for navigating lots of tabs.

They're working on a profile switcher: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/here-s-what-we-re...
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