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GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) is very real, and talked about a lot in the music industry. There are books, and papers studying this.
Good thing that there is nothing like that in other hobbies like Woodworking, Ham Radio, etc.
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> Is "musicians who don't even know the genre they'll use professionally yet" a valid market in the first place? That's not really Teenage Engineering's primary market, in the same way Rolex's primary market isn't "people who need to tell the time". Both T.E and Rolex products do their jobs really well, but the people buying them are buying more for the aesthetic than the function. Teenage Engineering are primarily a…
I think their main market is people who definitely won’t use the product they can convince to think “I will definitely use this product”. (This one came pretty close to getting me)
Not unlike the iPad market.
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Most of the stuff seems way overpriced https://teenage.engineering/products/field-desk Looks like a $100 desk for $1,600
This is the 10,000th time someone has posted TE products to HN and said they're overpriced. They make high-end luxury products for rich people, if you think it's too expensive then you're not the target audience. This is like saying a Lamborghini is too expensive because you can by a Toyota that does 90% of the same stuff for a fifth of the cost. Every one knows, that's the point. I mean I get it, I would never buy a…
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Most of the stuff seems way overpriced https://teenage.engineering/products/field-desk Looks like a $100 desk for $1,600
This is the cost of doing business when you have to pay for engineering (and tooling + certification) on niche products. Nothing they do is really designed for mass market.
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It's certainly real. What was it about the video that made you think it's generative? That it's surrealistic?
Well yeah, mostly that it has a ton of actors and setpieces (and a horse!) for what AFAICT is a joke product. I mean, it's perhaps not a joke , but... surely anyone who actually wanted to be a touring musician with this kind of music would just load up sounds onto a regular board? Is "musicians who don't even know the genre they'll use professionally yet" a valid market in the first place? And it consists of short, h…
Medieval what?
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> You're saying this like their over-designing blocks/prevents basic usability I meant it more like they are not building products that are there to meet some need for the general population that isn't met, they aren't designing and building general use-case type products, but instead building extremely niche things like medieval samplers. Oddball, extreme niche uses. Like they aren't trying to build something like a…
> I meant it more like they are not building products that are there to meet some need for the general population that isn't met, they aren't designing and building general use-case type products, but instead building extremely niche things You're describing like 90% of all music hardware that is being launched today :) Who really needs a new delay pedal when there already exists thousands of them? Hardly makes them…
I know many musicians who love using Teenage Engineerings products for making music, performing live etc. However, I do think there is a case to be made for falling into the trap of being more interested in the gear than the thing you're meant to do with the gear. At the very least, Teenage Engineering hardware is generally very well designed, high quality and built to last. At least this product has some creative sp…
Very well said on gear-trap. Last night I was watching an old video[1] of the kind of gear Ólafur Arnalds uses. I was amazed and aghast at the amount of expensive "outboard" gear and other vintage hardware such as "compressors", "filter banks", "levelling amplifiers", Korg PS-3100, a vintage analog synthesizer which costs more than 20,000 (!) euros,tape recorders, etc. Many of these things I didn't even know existed.…
But you might! A new instrument can inspire you and make you want to play more music and that can lead to improvement.
All things considered, the Medieval isn't all that expensive. All you are really risking is approx. $100 if buying new (because you can resell on eBay) and practically nothing if you buy it used.