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Re: Medieval

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Post by bbor »

dhritzkiv wrote: post #47
bbor wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone please help this little skeptic: is that video real, or Midjourney? The short cuts make me think Midjourney, but then they have a shot with their product in it.

It's certainly real. What was it about the video that made you think it's generative? That it's surrealistic?

Well yeah, mostly that it has a ton of actors and setpieces (and a horse!) for what AFAICT is a joke product. I mean, it's perhaps not a joke, but... surely anyone who actually wanted to be a touring musician with this kind of music would just load up sounds onto a regular board? Is "musicians who don't even know the genre they'll use professionally yet" a valid market in the first place?

And it consists of short, highly composed shots, which is how non-professional (read: non-Sora) AI videos are these days. They create the individual images then animate them into 2-4 second clips with slight, predictable movement.

Re: Medieval

#74

Post by kstrauser »

whatshisface wrote: post #39
stitched2gethr wrote: post #31

I'm a fan of Teenage Engineering. I think they make some really cool products but they have a few that really makes me wonder, who is this for?

I think their target audience are well-heeled Apple customers who like to imagine that they are musicians. Hacker culture doesn't have a "collector of expensive African originals" role, so "amateur who collects equipment far out of proportion to the time they invest in using any of it" has formed to collect the same psychological energy. It's about the combination of the creator fantasy on the surface backed up by th…

You’re not totally wrong, just mostly. I use Apple stuff. I bought an EP-133 at launch. That part was true.

I also spent thousands of hours with a MIDI setup on my Amiga when I was in high school, teaching myself how to program the little FM synth my parents bought me for Christmas, and learning the theory of what makes a drum pattern sound good.

I don’t have thousands of hours available anymore. I still want to dabble sometimes though. Those are skills I worked very hard to learn, I enjoy exercising them, and I don’t want them to atrophy. That specific Teenage Engineering device has all the things I want to play with in a single portable box that also manages to be dirt cheap for what all it does.

Some people drive BMWs because they want to be seen driving them. Others drive them because — get this — turns out they’re nice cars to drive. At $300, my EP-133 isn’t exactly the BMW of musical instruments. It still does a hell of a job of scratching my musical itch. I couldn’t care less if anyone else ever sees me playing with it. I hope they never do. I got it for me, to enjoy, to make (bad) music with so I can get songs out of my head and into my ears. Sorry-not-sorry if that’s not “real musician” enough for some. I don’t care. I’m still having fun.

Re: Medieval

#76

Post by 8note »

whatshisface wrote: post #66
jahewson wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems a bit harsh. There’s surely more dimensions to their market than this?

I glossed over the "Apple" dimension of elevating plastic stuff to luxury goods by being amazingly careful about injection molding marks etc, but I don't know a lot about it. I think the daring fireball guy is the recognized expert on the consumer experience side of it.

The apple dimension would include selling injection molding marks as a luxury feature, if that's what their products have

Re: Medieval

#77

Post by maxglute »

sincerely wrote: post #70
maxglute wrote: post #60

Incredible, but I can't believe this came out before their TWS. https://www.yankodesign.com/2022/07/27/teenage-engineering-b...

FYI those are never going to come out, it's just a render a designer made. From the link: >This is a fan-made concept and isn’t affiliated with Teenage Engineering

[face slap emoji] thank you, you saved me from refreshing their site every couple months.

Re: Medieval

#78

Post by Nition »

bbor wrote: post #69
spencerflem wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The video is 11 years old fwiw

Which video is 11 years old...? The release video for this project that seems to be copyrighted 2024? This is the most baffling response I could've received, so I'm quite curious!

They thought you were referring to the Holy Mountain movie clip from YouTube that the parent comment shared.

When you said "that video", it was ambiguous whether "that" referred to the promo video or the one the comment shared. It seemed fairly clear to me that you'd be asking an AI question about the 2024 promo video and not the one from 1973, but it evidently wasn't clear enough as multiple people have assumed the latter.

Apparently I'm the official translator for both sides of this conversation.

Re: Medieval

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Post by mr_briggs »

b1n wrote: post #28

Nice 'Holy Mountain' vibes in the promo video. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Mountain_(1973_film) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdXGhsAynGI

Watching The Holy Mountain, I felt like my life had been divided in 2 - that which came before watching it, and that which came after. Sure is an experience, and I certainly can't unsee a lot of it.
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