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Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by danaris »

rvnx wrote: post #36
jumpadvance wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting what search engines would you recommend

Yandex & Baidu are one of the few legit alternative search-engines (in a way that they are not reskins of Google or Bing). Almost all others they have Bing hidden somewhere, and a big lie "we are using Bing for 0.00001% of the results of course". They are difficult to use to day-to-day but they can be useful sometimes. For sure they don't share your data with Western governments. So in terms of privacy it's actually…

I hope you'll forgive me if I'm not any more interested in handing my search history to Russia and China than I am in handing it to Google.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by plorkyeran »

dijit wrote: post #16
5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #11

safari dev tools suck ass. and they have done for at least 5 years if not more. i'd say they've gotten worse even. and expecting me to create an Apple ID and then download 30GB of xcode crap just to port my 5kb chrome extension to safari. yea right.

Do you not need a google account to push to the chrome store? I’m not sure how it would work without such an account, and if you do then it seems like a weird hill to die on… surely you’d be expected to have one for another store. Is XCode really 30GB?!

It used to be, but a few years ago they split the tvOS/watchOS/visionOS support out to separate optional packages. The latest Xcode 16 beta is a 3 GB download and that includes everything you need for Safari extensions.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by doe88 »

Sadely, I happen to be a single issue Safari dismisser kind of human.

When I open (click) on a folder in the bookmarks toolbar and then hover on adjacent folders it doesn't automatically open them, I also have to click on them. For this single feature alone, I never could use this browser.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by tjoff »

Nevermark wrote: post #27
tjoff wrote: post #2

Maybe be the change you want to see in the world and don't use/support the most closed ecosystem? The alternatives are not prefect, nothing is. But they are all more open and that is something we can build upon.

This is a generic response that often follows specific complaints about some small aspect of an ecosystem, that trivializes the significance of individuals' ecosystem choices. The most likely reason people complain about something specific in an ecosystem, as apposed to the whole ecosystem, is ... because that is the level of problem they have. Without a LOT more information, "move out of the country", "breakup" leve…

Lets not talk it up more than necessary, staying within the ecosystem is mostly a convenience. I appreciate the reluctance to change over something minor, the point is a bit broader though. Be aware and maybe consider it for the future.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by nerdjon »

talldayo wrote: post #21
nerdjon wrote: post #19

For the most part I am fine with Safari, but I also can't say there is any browser that I actually like using. I feel like one of the biggest problems is, well what are the alternatives? I use Firefox on my PC but since that is primarily for gaming I don't really need the interconnectivity. On my Mac, iPhone, and iPad the way everything works together is just way too valuable. I wish it's memory didnt just keep inchi…

> On my Mac, iPhone, and iPad the way everything works together is just way too valuable. I use KDE connect to get this functionality on Firefox/Chromium: https://kdeconnect.kde.org/ I'm sure you've probably had your ear talked-off hearing about this from an ex-Continuity user, so I really have little else to add. My laptop, desktop, phone and tablet all talk on the same network, and can send files and URLs over WiFi…

I do realize that there are alternatives, but I just don't feel the need too. I am already fully within the Apple Ecosystem for other reasons. Continuity is icing on top.

I prefer Mac to Windows and I have zero desire to use Android.

But I also don't want to have to tinker with my personal tech when I don't need too. I just want everything to work, I already need to debug things for work or personal projects.

I have found that, I don't know if its due to my ADHD or what, but when I am working on something and something that should just work doesnt, than I never get the first thing done. And I heavily rely on Continuity for my workflows outside of work.

Its great that this exist, but I do think we have to acknowledge that there is a place for not needing to tinker with your tech and things just work. (Yes I acknowledge that even Apple's systems are not perfect, but still).

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by bryanlarsen »

nerdjon wrote: post #45
talldayo wrote: post #21

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> On my Mac, iPhone, and iPad the way everything works together is just way too valuable. I use KDE connect to get this functionality on Firefox/Chromium: https://kdeconnect.kde.org/ I'm sure you've probably had your ear talked-off hearing about this from an ex-Continuity user, so I really have little else to add. My laptop, desktop, phone and tablet all talk on the same network, and can send files and URLs over WiFi…

I do realize that there are alternatives, but I just don't feel the need too. I am already fully within the Apple Ecosystem for other reasons. Continuity is icing on top. I prefer Mac to Windows and I have zero desire to use Android. But I also don't want to have to tinker with my personal tech when I don't need too. I just want everything to work, I already need to debug things for work or personal projects. I have…

I would consider KDE Connect to be in the list of things that just works.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by talldayo »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #46
nerdjon wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do realize that there are alternatives, but I just don't feel the need too. I am already fully within the Apple Ecosystem for other reasons. Continuity is icing on top. I prefer Mac to Windows and I have zero desire to use Android. But I also don't want to have to tinker with my personal tech when I don't need too. I just want everything to work, I already need to debug things for work or personal projects. I have…

I would consider KDE Connect to be in the list of things that just works.

Syncthing even more so. I set up my folders maybe 4 years ago and haven't opened the sync menu since. If you told me that the core technology behind it was fairy dust I'd probably believe you.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by ksec »

Sporktacular wrote: post #17

How about disabling the unpinch to zoom out to the tab overview? Happens accidentally all the time and reloads tabs/hogs RAM when it does. Or fixing the erasure of URLs from older tabs? Impossible to easily reload (but Translate to.../then view original does the trick). Safari did the fundamentals quickly and solidly. Now not so much.

>How about disabling the unpinch to zoom out to the tab overview?

I think I disable pinch Zoom in and out on touch pad. And I dont understand why Tab Overview has to reloads all the tabs either.

>Or fixing the erasure of URLs from older tabs? Impossible to easily reload

Same problem.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by [deleted] »

nerdjon wrote: post #19

For the most part I am fine with Safari, but I also can't say there is any browser that I actually like using. I feel like one of the biggest problems is, well what are the alternatives? I use Firefox on my PC but since that is primarily for gaming I don't really need the interconnectivity. On my Mac, iPhone, and iPad the way everything works together is just way too valuable. I wish it's memory didnt just keep inchi…

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Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Post by runjake »

talldayo wrote: post #47
bryanlarsen wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would consider KDE Connect to be in the list of things that just works.

Syncthing even more so. I set up my folders maybe 4 years ago and haven't opened the sync menu since. If you told me that the core technology behind it was fairy dust I'd probably believe you.

Counter experience: I use Syncthing and sync breaks, conflicts or pauses at least a couple times a year. It's bad enough that I'm actually considering re-subscribing to Dropbox and using the Maestral app.
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