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Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

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Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#15

Orion is a nice, macOS only, Safari-based browser with vertical nested tabs. https://kagi.com/orion/ It's made by folks at Kagi.

I'm a paid Kagi subscriber but every singe time I've tried Orion it's just been too buggy, even a couple months ago.

It's unstable and incompatible with some web pages sadly, it feels like you're an alien on the web not a first class citizen (although only chrome is one).

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#16

safari dev tools suck ass. and they have done for at least 5 years if not more. i'd say they've gotten worse even. and expecting me to create an Apple ID and then download 30GB of xcode crap just to port my 5kb chrome extension to safari. yea right.

Do you not need a google account to push to the chrome store?

I’m not sure how it would work without such an account, and if you do then it seems like a weird hill to die on… surely you’d be expected to have one for another store.

Is XCode really 30GB?!

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#17
How about disabling the unpinch to zoom out to the tab overview? Happens accidentally all the time and reloads tabs/hogs RAM when it does.

Or fixing the erasure of URLs from older tabs? Impossible to easily reload (but Translate to.../then view original does the trick).

Safari did the fundamentals quickly and solidly. Now not so much.

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#18
post #8

So, performance hasn't kept up and you don’t like the extension ecosystem? Performance I understand, its hard to compete with v8 and JS is pumped down our pipes in ever-growing amounts. Extensions are poor, truly, with this I agree. But extensions are also a huge reason that people consider browsers to be unperformant (hilariously, based on my previous statement). I can understand the Safari team being less than exci…

Safari + AdGuard (with the extension enabled) is much slower than Chrome/Firefox + uBlock Origin though

Re: Dear Safari, Things I Hate About You

#19
For the most part I am fine with Safari, but I also can't say there is any browser that I actually like using.

I feel like one of the biggest problems is, well what are the alternatives? I use Firefox on my PC but since that is primarily for gaming I don't really need the interconnectivity. On my Mac, iPhone, and iPad the way everything works together is just way too valuable.

I wish it's memory didnt just keep inching higher and higher and I need to close it regularly, but I don't know if that is unqiue to Safari or if it would happen on other browsers if I opened way too many windows and tabs.

That being said: "Everyone knows about your tawdry Google relationship" yeah that needs to be addressed and is the same reason I don't consider Chrome an option. Everything else, I am not convinced any other browser is really much better.

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