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Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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Putting aside the fact this lawyer is a scumbag (surprising no one), it really is amazing how bad leakers are at covering their tracks. Almost makes me wonder if there's a market for some kind of "Leaking Agency" where we can help people leak information safely in exchange for a cut of any media buys or other income they might get from it.

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Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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Putting aside the fact this lawyer is a scumbag (surprising no one), it really is amazing how bad leakers are at covering their tracks. Almost makes me wonder if there's a market for some kind of "Leaking Agency" where we can help people leak information safely in exchange for a cut of any media buys or other income they might get from it.

Leak enough valuable information and you will be caught in a sting operation. https://9to5mac.com/2023/05/10/apple-leaker-sting-operation-...

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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What digital protections did the kid circumvent? As far as I can tell he just dumped the game's graphics and found a previously unknown creature among the results. No circumvention of anything whatsoever, just direct access to the data. If the corporations don't want stuff like this to be found, they should try not putting it into the game in the first place. I guess copyright monopolists who are delusional enough to…

> What digital protections did the kid circumvent? This was my first thought too. While the entire DMCA is misguided draconian bullshit, I'm having trouble figuring out by what tortured logic dumping an image from a game file would trigger it.

It's not like he used inspect element and 'broke' the md5/sha-1 hash.. err I mean "encryption".

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Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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I dunno. I usually read HN comments before the article, so I know what to look out for when reading it. But that's not the tone I'm getting here. >So I called his mom and said, ‘Listen, I wanted to tell you some things that Andrew is doing on the computer.’ She says, ‘So you’re saying he hacked your game.’ And I hear in the background: ‘I didn’t hack anything!’ I start describing it more technically. She says, ‘Is th…

I mean, you are right but it still feels wrong to see a lawyer bragging on the internet about shutting down a kid that basically just peeked in a toy his parents brought him.

He's not right. The lawyer likely didn't have a legal leg to stand on, but may have caused a paradigm shift in this kid's life.

Why do you assume there weren't knock-on effects/consequences to his actions? Or that they were positive (set him on the right track) vs deleterious?

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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> I might have a talk with David. I might say, ‘Listen, I’ve figured out it was you. Do I not seem approachable? Why are you and I not having a conversation about this?’ Talk about an absolute terrible way to approach someone who went public about a sexual harassment claim. From just this article I don't think I'd feel comfortable talking with this dude about anything serious going on.

Yes, that was the line where my bullshit detector went to over 9000. "Obviously, my job is to protect the organization, but ‘protect the organization’ takes on different meanings to different people. To me, ‘protect the organization’ has always meant: protect your people from bad things." I have no words to express how far from the truth this is. The only lawyer who protects you is the one you hire. The company lawye…

Or in the case of sexual harassment, from _both_ of you.

Edit:autocorrect typo

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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I thank god I never became a lawyer. They are $300+/hr thugs for hire whose only mission is to bully you into complete submission until you pay to make them go away.

In my experience they cost a lot more than $300 an hour.

My lawyer for a minor traffic accident in juvenile traffic court was $300/hr in a low CoL market, 22 years ago....

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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The anecdote about setting the lawyers on the kid who extracted the art assets from Pokémon.exe feels like a real ethical low point. If you’re a lawyer going after children who take the screws out of the backs of alarm clocks then I’m afraid you’re the bad guy. People like that ought to be held accountable by their regional bar association.

It's tempting to feel bad for the kid, but he knew exactly how to not get any threatening phone calls: never unscrew anything. The parents are liable for leaving screwdrivers in accessible places. The inside of alarm clocks are our currency , for God's sake. If you ask me, every screw should have a uniquely shaped slot in the head and come with a single matching drill bit. This reckless screw compatibility situation…

Fit in the box and color in the lines! I say

Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers

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It's tempting to feel bad for the kid, but he knew exactly how to not get any threatening phone calls: never unscrew anything. The parents are liable for leaving screwdrivers in accessible places. The inside of alarm clocks are our currency , for God's sake. If you ask me, every screw should have a uniquely shaped slot in the head and come with a single matching drill bit. This reckless screw compatibility situation…

It is of paramount importance that IP is protected. With an electricution mechanism perhaps?

Make the screws poison-tipped to seal the deal if they survive the electrocution.
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