In the answer to "What’s the wildest story of a leaker you dealt with?", is Nintendo claiming that it's a federal crime just to look at icon files in a game you bought that's installed on your computer?
Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers
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Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
This guy’s actions are 100% in line with Nintendo’s policies. They actively hate their fans. There is a legal way to punish Nintendo: Stop giving them money, and make sure everyone knows that the reason why is that you don’t do business with bullies.
Boycotts almost never work. Yet, somehow we keep reaching for that ineffective tool whenever the discussion of corporate bad behavior comes up. Vote With Your Wallet sounds nice, but just doesn't actually work in reality.
Bud Light and the generally chilling effect on corporate "progressive messaging" (or however someone would choose to phrase it) their boycott has had would like a word with you.
Boycotts work quite well, but you have to have a sufficient base of customers to participate — and it helps to avoid spurring counter-boycotts: Chick-Fil-A's business increased after some chose to boycott them. It also helps when the company's product is commodity swill that's easy enough to rotate out (Bud Light) vs. a generally positive customer experience (CFA).
Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers
#83>‘Hacking software, that’s a federal crime, but I don’t want that to be the conversation. Why don’t we make it a conversation about the good and bad things he can do with a computer?’ What a complete piece of shit. Threatening a child and his parent because the child dumped some memory and found some file. He also knows that there is exactly zero chance for any legal actions towards that kid (and of course it is not…
Unfortunately there is no lawful way to penalize someone for being an absolute piece of shit, since being a piece of shit is totally legal. Shame doesn’t work: people don’t even feel or respond to shame anymore. You can’t punch them, even if they deserve it. So lawyers like this just live their shitty lives, threatening children and sleeping soundly at night on mattresses stuffed with $100 bills.
Threatening people to make them behave a certain way is actually illegal, even if that threat is legal action. Especially if you are trying to stop someone from doing something well within their rights, knowingly abusing your privileged access to the law as a lawyer.
Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's even worse that this asshole was legally correct, of course he was, one of the bad laws is the passage of DMCA which bans circumventing digital protections. That's how you get bullshit like DVD Jon who was accused of trespassing on his own computer.
What digital protections did the kid circumvent? As far as I can tell he just dumped the game's graphics and found a previously unknown creature among the results. No circumvention of anything whatsoever, just direct access to the data. If the corporations don't want stuff like this to be found, they should try not putting it into the game in the first place. I guess copyright monopolists who are delusional enough to…
> What digital protections did the kid circumvent?
This was my first thought too. While the entire DMCA is misguided draconian bullshit, I'm having trouble figuring out by what tortured logic dumping an image from a game file would trigger it.
Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately there is no lawful way to penalize someone for being an absolute piece of shit, since being a piece of shit is totally legal. Shame doesn’t work: people don’t even feel or respond to shame anymore. You can’t punch them, even if they deserve it. So lawyers like this just live their shitty lives, threatening children and sleeping soundly at night on mattresses stuffed with $100 bills.
Threatening people to make them behave a certain way is actually illegal, even if that threat is legal action. Especially if you are trying to stop someone from doing something well within their rights, knowingly abusing your privileged access to the law as a lawyer.
> Threatening people to make them behave a certain way is actually illegal, even if that threat is legal action
No, its generally not. Every legal demand letter is a threat of legal action intended to produce a desired behavioral outcome in the target. Needless to say, issuing a demand letter is not generally itself illegal.
> Especially if you are trying to stop someone from doing something well within their rights
Threats of either actions which are themselves illegal (prohibited violence) or threats with illegal purposes (suppression of protected rights) are often illegal,but that's a lot narrower than “Threatening people to make them behave a certain way is actually illegal”.
Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers
#86> "A veteran investigator of video-game leaks reveals the tricks of the trade" Complete lie by the way. The highest revelation is that the found out that some streamer leaked something, because they noticed the leaked photos had the same icons as he did. Besides bullying a kid, this is just irrelevant.
The streamer used publicly available binaries so if there's a leak here, it's on the dev team for embedding assets that they shouldn't have.
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Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Threatening people to make them behave a certain way is actually illegal, even if that threat is legal action. Especially if you are trying to stop someone from doing something well within their rights, knowingly abusing your privileged access to the law as a lawyer.
> Threatening people to make them behave a certain way is actually illegal, even if that threat is legal action No, its generally not. Every legal demand letter is a threat of legal action intended to produce a desired behavioral outcome in the target. Needless to say, issuing a demand letter is not generally itself illegal. > Especially if you are trying to stop someone from doing something well within their rights…
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Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Threatening people to make them behave a certain way is actually illegal, even if that threat is legal action. Especially if you are trying to stop someone from doing something well within their rights, knowingly abusing your privileged access to the law as a lawyer.
> Threatening people to make them behave a certain way is actually illegal, even if that threat is legal action No, its generally not. Every legal demand letter is a threat of legal action intended to produce a desired behavioral outcome in the target. Needless to say, issuing a demand letter is not generally itself illegal. > Especially if you are trying to stop someone from doing something well within their rights…
Your comment is framed as a disagreement but is actually just an elaboration. Granted, I should have said "can be illegal" instead of "is illegal" to make it narrower. The main point I was trying to make is that abuses of the legal system to coerce behavior are not allowed.
Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers
#89Putting aside the fact this lawyer is a scumbag (surprising no one), it really is amazing how bad leakers are at covering their tracks.
Almost makes me wonder if there's a market for some kind of "Leaking Agency" where we can help people leak information safely in exchange for a cut of any media buys or other income they might get from it.
Re: Former Bungie, Pokémon lawyer explains how they caught leakers
#90>‘Hacking software, that’s a federal crime, but I don’t want that to be the conversation. Why don’t we make it a conversation about the good and bad things he can do with a computer?’ What a complete piece of shit. Threatening a child and his parent because the child dumped some memory and found some file. He also knows that there is exactly zero chance for any legal actions towards that kid (and of course it is not…
I thank god I never became a lawyer. They are $300+/hr thugs for hire whose only mission is to bully you into complete submission until you pay to make them go away.
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