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Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by pbzm »

renonce wrote: post #187
pbzm wrote: post #171

We've fixed this issue on the Firefox side ~2 months ago. Here is the bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1897379 It's possible that you have an extension installed that blocks e.g. Twitter's CDN. We've seen issues like that with the Disconnect Firefox extension.

So if I understand correctly, this puts x.com under the same entity as twitter.com so third party cookies are allowed between x.com and other twitter sites?

Firefox partitions (and soon blocks) 3rd party cookies by default. That means they can't be used for cross-site tracking. Also not across different top level sites belonging to Twitter / X. The entity configuration for ETP does not change anything here.

The bug we fixed was in ETP, an older mechanism in Firefox, which blocks cookie access for known trackers, based on a list. Only for that mechanism we consider a hand full of domains by Twitter / X to be the same party. This is so we e.g. don't block their CDN if you're on x.com. We still block them on sites not belonging to Twitter / X. This is especially relevant for ETP strict which does not only block cookie and storage access, but also blocks 3rd party loads from known trackers altogether. If we block Twitter's CDN on x.com the site breaks.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by heraldgeezer »

jimnotgym wrote: post #177
heraldgeezer wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cant make a new account as my old one got banned and they also banned my phone number so I cannot make a new one anyway.

Did you do something extreme, like discussing Donald Trump rather than hero worshipping him?

This was way back before Musk.

I suspect my account got hacked, but I was able to login and just delete it. Did not think about it, but now if I make a new one with my phone number it errors out on the phone part.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by sunaookami »

adra wrote: post #94
manuelmoreale wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt the general public uses Firefox with strict tracking turned on (unfortunately)

Let's be honest, the general public isn't using Firefox, isn't using x.com and has never heard of hacker News and if taught, they'd be afraid you were trying to scam them. We live in a pretty deep filter bubble.

In the US every 2nd person uses Twitter. Firefox is only used by 7% in the US.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by sunaookami »

Grimblewald wrote: post #43
chii wrote: post #23

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> The problem is the sites. no, the problem is that sites can _afford_ to block firefox, because their share is low enough that they can take the hit. What we need to do, as tech evangalists, is to push the marketshare of firefox higher, so that they cannot be ignored by sites, due to significant traffic. This is how the open internet can preserve both privacy and control of the computing environment. if your friends…

why force a shit website to allow us to view it? X is a cess pool of miss-information, over-selling, over-hyping, and generally the worst the internet has to offer. At least 4chan wears its degenerate nature on it's sleeve.

I agree, browsers should only allow viewing websites which were vetted by the government with approved information.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by filoleg »

heraldgeezer wrote: post #154
Quothling wrote: post #122

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I think Twitter will probably remain popular for a long time, especially for people with a more right leaning perspective on the world. That's not really the people I associate with, and it probably needs to be mentioned here that I'm Danish. Which matters because the sort of people who post right leaning stuff here are kind of your crazy uncle on Facebook kind of people. Which means that Danish Twitter is slowly bec…

>especially for people with a more right leaning perspective on the world. Why add this without any source lol? Things like the leftie Palestine protests and the news streamer Hasanabi extensively get news from and use Twitter.

My good faith take on it is that it might indeed be the case in Denmark (which is where the grandparent comment user is from). Though Denmark’s twitter culture/userbase breakdown doesn’t seem likely to to me as being representative of the larger twitter.

And also, I totally agree with you that this is definitely not so clear-cut in the case of North America and Japan (aka the two largest countries on Twitter/X by their userbase).

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by filoleg »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #22
OutOfHere wrote: post #12

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In fairness, Strict Tracking Protection is not a Firefox problem; it is very clearly a Firefox feature. The problem is the sites. X is not really an important site anyway.

If important people would just quit fucking using it , it wouldn't be an important site. Unfortunately, and astoundingly, nobody has bothered to create anything remotely competitive with Xitter, even at this late date.

> If important people would just quit fucking using it, it wouldn't be an important site.

Yeah, and if everyone would just agree to pinky swear to never engage in wars again and then fully disarm, we would achieve eternal world peace. All they gotta do is just stop doing those things.

Unfortunately, things don’t quite work as simply as the way you imagine they do in the real world.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by saghm »

Kiro wrote: post #126
newzisforsukas wrote: post #66

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> para-social parasocial* Many don't follow people, just institutions and publications for news.

"Para-social" is fine and in fact how it was written when it was coined in 1956.

It's important to always use the original spelling, especially when sending an E-mail on the Internet.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by manuelmoreale »

sunaookami wrote: post #195
adra wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's be honest, the general public isn't using Firefox, isn't using x.com and has never heard of hacker News and if taught, they'd be afraid you were trying to scam them. We live in a pretty deep filter bubble.

In the US every 2nd person uses Twitter. Firefox is only used by 7% in the US.

So according to most numbers I see floating online it’s not every other person in the US. I’m seeing a bit more than 100M on a population of 330M.

All this is if we trust the numbers coming out of Twitter.

But still, 30% is more than 7%.

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