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Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, for one, don't make accounts on services with a hate speech rate as high as current Twitter. I'd consider an account an indirect endorsement.

What is wrong with respecting people's right to have opinions you don't like? Isn't that what everyone wanted?

Respect and endorsement are not the same thing. Also, when tolerance is the goal, there must be an intolerance against intolerance - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

#22
post #5

That's the problem with Firefox these days: The management has been so bad that the market share tanked and now market actors can afford to block FF users who are privacy conscious without risking a big outcry. A sign of things to come…

In fairness, Strict Tracking Protection is not a Firefox problem; it is very clearly a Firefox feature. The problem is the sites. X is not really an important site anyway.

If important people would just quit fucking using it, it wouldn't be an important site.

Unfortunately, and astoundingly, nobody has bothered to create anything remotely competitive with Xitter, even at this late date.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

#23
post #5

That's the problem with Firefox these days: The management has been so bad that the market share tanked and now market actors can afford to block FF users who are privacy conscious without risking a big outcry. A sign of things to come…

In fairness, Strict Tracking Protection is not a Firefox problem; it is very clearly a Firefox feature. The problem is the sites. X is not really an important site anyway.

> The problem is the sites.

no, the problem is that sites can _afford_ to block firefox, because their share is low enough that they can take the hit.

What we need to do, as tech evangalists, is to push the marketshare of firefox higher, so that they cannot be ignored by sites, due to significant traffic. This is how the open internet can preserve both privacy and control of the computing environment.

if your friends and/or family isn't using firefox (this includes mobile), nag them to switch. If you are a tech support for your extended family, push firefox onto them (and install adblock while you're at it).

If you control a company's IT infrastructure, push firefox as the default browser, over chrome.

The internet is repeating the microsoft IE days with chrome, but without the shittiness that made chrome a possible barrier breaker (chrome is good enough that most people aren't complaining).

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, for one, don't make accounts on services with a hate speech rate as high as current Twitter. I'd consider an account an indirect endorsement.

What is wrong with respecting people's right to have opinions you don't like? Isn't that what everyone wanted?

You have the right to say what you want, and the right to not associate with people who say certain types of things.

Free speech doesn’t mean everybody has to hang around and listen.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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post #5

That's the problem with Firefox these days: The management has been so bad that the market share tanked and now market actors can afford to block FF users who are privacy conscious without risking a big outcry. A sign of things to come…

In fairness, Strict Tracking Protection is not a Firefox problem; it is very clearly a Firefox feature. The problem is the sites. X is not really an important site anyway.

Yes, but now I can’t convince my family to use Firefox because it makes part of the internet unusable which is a deal breaker to them.

Doesn’t matter if it’s the sites that are the problem, Firefox has lost momentum to such a degree that sites don’t care anymore. So they should tread carefully with features like this.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Many sites do not work with javascript disabled. This has been problem for decades. This is not any different.

That Firefox setting doesn't disable Javascript. I use it on a Firefox fork for Android and about the only noticeable difference I've seen is sites aren't given the `prefers-color-scheme` value, so dark themes can't be auto detected.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, Strict Tracking Protection is not a Firefox problem; it is very clearly a Firefox feature. The problem is the sites. X is not really an important site anyway.

If important people would just quit fucking using it , it wouldn't be an important site. Unfortunately, and astoundingly, nobody has bothered to create anything remotely competitive with Xitter, even at this late date.

absolutely. if I quit Twitter, where would I get my Jake Paul and Kim Kardashian updates?
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