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Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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I might be a few beers in, but I don't quite understand your thesis. Politics in developing countries is a business, not ideological. Ain't no good guys - only bad guys. Everyone's in on making enough out of the grift to emigrate to the US or the UK (just like Sheikh Hasina and her opponent Khalida Zia's children)

> Politics in developing countries is a business, not ideological. What a joke! Imperialism flourished due to corporates being allowed to own their own private armies. The US is the best example of a country that exists for, and is run by corporates - and that happened because the older European powers clamped down on corporates, and they fled to the US.

> that happened because the older European powers clamped down on corporates, and they fled to the US

This comment is a lot of nonsense, but this takes the cake. America has always had more powerful private interests than Europe.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Does Starlink work in Bangladesh?

From what I read it got approved but their government last year but Star Link plans were to make it available next year. But it likely need a ground station which could still be blocked by the government.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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I’ll provide the links for the two suras cited above for the curious: An Nisa (the women) - https://quran.com/4 , https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-Nisa . In dowry and inheritance matters it’s actually quite advanced for its age. Al Anfal (the spoils of war) - https://quran.com/8 , https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal . These are, of course, orthogonal to our moral values but not more depraved than bounty custom…

I understand that. It's just that many people still use these passages to the present day to justify bad behavior.

That is what all religious texts and institutions effectively do. Take moral standards of centuries and millennium before and force it on today.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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GP didn't say that 25 years should become the elected leaders. But Sheikh Hasina (the current PM since 2008) was the leader of the opposition in 1986 at 39 years old [1], and then first became PM in 1996 at 49 years old. The ones who were PM from 1986 to today were all born in the 1940s [2]. Same is the case in Pakistan. Every prime minister since 1988 was born in the 40s or early 50s [3]. India's PMs have, on the ot…

Bangladesh is a democracy with free and fair elections. If people wanted younger leaders they would have voted for them. A revolution because you lost at the ballot box is ridiculous. It’s not comparable to Pakistan where not a single Prime Minister has ever completed a full term and the country has been led explicitly by the military for decades and implicitly by the military for its entire existence.

> Bangladesh is a democracy with free and fair elections.

[citation needed]

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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GP didn't say that 25 years should become the elected leaders. But Sheikh Hasina (the current PM since 2008) was the leader of the opposition in 1986 at 39 years old [1], and then first became PM in 1996 at 49 years old. The ones who were PM from 1986 to today were all born in the 1940s [2]. Same is the case in Pakistan. Every prime minister since 1988 was born in the 40s or early 50s [3]. India's PMs have, on the ot…

Bangladesh is a democracy with free and fair elections. If people wanted younger leaders they would have voted for them. A revolution because you lost at the ballot box is ridiculous. It’s not comparable to Pakistan where not a single Prime Minister has ever completed a full term and the country has been led explicitly by the military for decades and implicitly by the military for its entire existence.

You should perhaps check what just happened in the January elections in Bangladesh. The opposition parties did not compete because they didn't think the elections were fair. The result was [1]

> The Awami League, led by incumbent Sheikh Hasina, won the election for the fourth consecutive time with less than 40% of the eligible voters voting according to an Election Commission, which is run by the ruling political party.[5][2][6][7] The party won 224 seats while independent candidates, most of whom were Awami League members propped up as dummy candidates to give a semblance of competition, won 62 seats.

You can click back to the last few elections on wiki, and see how much evidence there is of unfree/rigged elections in Bangladesh.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Bangladeshi_general_elect...

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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Which part sounds like fascism? The Awami League is ideologically a center-left party, it's not far right. The quota system that's being protested offers employment quotas to descendants of revolutionaries and minorities. It was the party that founded Bangladesh. Protests are occurring because of the corruption and joblessness that results from these quotas and because the law was overturned earlier but reinstated. M…

I'm very uninformed about Bangladeshi and South Asian politics but yes the violent suppression of protests and killing of protestors are the parts that sound a bit fascist to me.

You're also very uninformed about what the word "fascist" means.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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> The Middle East If Bangladesh is the "Middle East" then so is Burma/Myanmar and Thailand (which is at most 200 miles from the Bangladesh border)

In English, Bangladesh is not Middle East. In German, it is. Israel is Near East from our perspective. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittlerer_Osten

Wow, I had no idea that "Middle East" referred to different regions in different languages - that's interesting.

Btw we say "Near East" in English too and it's vaguely defined but it usually includes Israel. But I don't think it's wrong to say that Israel is in the "Middle East" too - the two terms overlap somewhat.

Re: Bangladesh imposes curfew after dozens killed in anti-government protests

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> Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Source: Wikipedia This sounds like the very d…

Many people want to either tiptoe around or flat out ignore the far right leanings of fascism to avoid what it says about the US

"Leanings"?
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