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Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by EgregiousCube »

chii wrote: post #23
OutOfHere wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, Strict Tracking Protection is not a Firefox problem; it is very clearly a Firefox feature. The problem is the sites. X is not really an important site anyway.

> The problem is the sites. no, the problem is that sites can _afford_ to block firefox, because their share is low enough that they can take the hit. What we need to do, as tech evangalists, is to push the marketshare of firefox higher, so that they cannot be ignored by sites, due to significant traffic. This is how the open internet can preserve both privacy and control of the computing environment. if your friends…

No, the problem is Mozilla.

Management has been so bad that Firefox is hard to recommend now. Servo is a great engine but the company behind it isn't earning support and I think it's not going to last. I'll keep using Firefox forks until they don't work, but I won't support Mozilla by using their product directly anymore.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by phailhaus »

Grimblewald wrote: post #43
chii wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The problem is the sites. no, the problem is that sites can _afford_ to block firefox, because their share is low enough that they can take the hit. What we need to do, as tech evangalists, is to push the marketshare of firefox higher, so that they cannot be ignored by sites, due to significant traffic. This is how the open internet can preserve both privacy and control of the computing environment. if your friends…

why force a shit website to allow us to view it? X is a cess pool of miss-information, over-selling, over-hyping, and generally the worst the internet has to offer. At least 4chan wears its degenerate nature on it's sleeve.

Nobody's defending X. The point is that it doesn't matter that FF has strict privacy controls if sites can afford to just...not support FF. Its market share will dwindle to zero and privacy will be dead.

FWIW it seems like the browser market is shifting away from third party cookies anyways, so I'm not sure this is a huge issue.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by auscompgeek »

stingraycharles wrote: post #27
OutOfHere wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, Strict Tracking Protection is not a Firefox problem; it is very clearly a Firefox feature. The problem is the sites. X is not really an important site anyway.

Yes, but now I can’t convince my family to use Firefox because it makes part of the internet unusable which is a deal breaker to them. Doesn’t matter if it’s the sites that are the problem, Firefox has lost momentum to such a degree that sites don’t care anymore. So they should tread carefully with features like this.

You have to opt-in to turning tracking protection to strict. When you're about to there's a prominent warning that it will likely break some websites.

Using Firefox in its default configuration shouldn't break websites.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by cmeacham98 »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #47
drooopy wrote: post #8

Strict tracking in firefox blocks the following: Social media trackers, Cross-site cookies in all windows, Tracking content in all windows, Cryptominers, Known and suspected fingerprinters. I wouldn't wanna use a site that relies on any of the above to function anyway.

The question is, what's going on here? Is this Firefox blocking some path/subdomain/cookie on x.com because it's used by their tracking widget, but the same is also used by some important part of the site itself, so it's essentially a false positive and Mozilla need to adjust the filter to be more specific? Or is the site detecting the ad blocker and purposely refusing to load?

I don't know specifically for X/Twitter, but typically it isn't actively malicious but instead just bad programming. The JS is written in a way that breaks when the fails to load.

Re: X.com refuses to open with Firefox strict tracking protection enabled

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Post by b800h »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #22
OutOfHere wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, Strict Tracking Protection is not a Firefox problem; it is very clearly a Firefox feature. The problem is the sites. X is not really an important site anyway.

If important people would just quit fucking using it , it wouldn't be an important site. Unfortunately, and astoundingly, nobody has bothered to create anything remotely competitive with Xitter, even at this late date.

My hypothesis on this is that the zeitgeist has moved on from microblogging. Post Muskification, the whole thing fragmented into Mastodon / X / Threads, and no new leading platform emerged because the kids are all on Tiktok anyway. You can't find your friends on microblogs anymore. Meanwhile, professional conversation has migrated to LinkedIn.
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