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Multisatellite data depicts a record-breaking methane leak from a well blowout

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The guy who’s funding $45 million a month for the candidate that wants to end EVs and pump more oil? That Elon?

Hard to believe he is doing this. It's absolutely nonsensical, I think Elon really is having mental health issues.

Either that, or everything he has said about being "pro human" was a lie. Which isn't hard to believe either.

Re: Multisatellite data depicts a record-breaking methane leak from a well blowout

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Better satellites and other aerial survey data has determined that oil and gas related methane emissions are far, far higher than industry reports. Everywhere independent researchers look along the production, transmission, distribution and end use pipeline they find more leakage than has been assumed because industry has provided the numbers the assumptions are based on for years. Along some particularly leaky produ…

Those 100 year timescale numbers are misleading as the impact is so front loaded. They only make sense when talking about an emissions that are constant through long timescales.

I've heard people argue that its both too aggressive and too conservative. I'm in the too conservative camp, we need to figure things out sooner than 100 years and the risk of a feedback loop is high with methane.

Its fine to assert that a single number doesn't capture the nuances of the situation. But we have to keep in mind that

1) the heat trapped by the methane stays trapped even after it has decayed

2) methane concentrations in the atmosphere are increasing significantly faster than co2

3) the more methane in the atmosphere the slower its rate of decay

Re: Multisatellite data depicts a record-breaking methane leak from a well blowout

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I wonder if these types of events were taken into account in those models for climate change.

Single events just aren't that big against the background of global oil and gas production emissions, let alone overall global methane emissions. Its true that O & G emissions are higher than most governments report but most models take this into account in some fashion.

Its also a big topic of research to account for methane emissions because the measured amount is larger than models are predicting from known inventories. But its not thought to be from events like this.

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How much is that in Social Carbon? Pun intended as why one would impose carbon taxes if the other countries so careless?

The EU is getting ready to impose a carbon border price which will be in proportion to estimates of carbon emissions. So, there will be a price on carelessness if it can be measured by satellites.

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Better satellites and other aerial survey data has determined that oil and gas related methane emissions are far, far higher than industry reports. Everywhere independent researchers look along the production, transmission, distribution and end use pipeline they find more leakage than has been assumed because industry has provided the numbers the assumptions are based on for years. Along some particularly leaky produ…

We're cooked

Re: Multisatellite data depicts a record-breaking methane leak from a well blowout

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There is going to be a point in the climate change phenomenon where we have to start taking aggressive measures and actually go after the biggest polluters no matter what nation they hide behind. Especially considering there will probably be forces working to undermine all of these climate goals. Maybe the US could throw some of that military budget around and use Seal team sappers to disable these polluting industri…

Trade wars are more likely than shooting wars, but I suppose its not impossible for the former to provoke the latter.

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They don’t even offset themselves, but SpaceX rockets would likely be a key part in deploying solar shades if necessary

How does that solve the problem of fossil fuel emissions?

It can decrease the solar exposure of the earth and potentially decrease temperature, doesn’t address fossil fuel pollution but it does mitigate the impacts of fossil fuel CO2.

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In Massachusetts, Lost and Unaccounted for Gas (LAUG) is estimated per mile of pipe, rather than evaluated by regulators or even industry. It is a simple multiplication problem with little bearing on reality. Consumers bear the cost of LAUG while the utilities are guaranteed a 10% profit on their infrastructure expenses. This, along with subsidies for leak prone pipe replacement, leads to needless investment in outmo…

Meanwhile in California, PG&E underfunded maintenance, perhaps because regulators squeezed too hard? Eventually we had things like the San Bruno gas explosion and wildfires so bad that PG&E went bankrupt. Finding the optimal amount of regulation seems difficult. It seems like too blunt an instrument. Incentives are no substitute for technical people who want to do what's right.

Government owning the utility would be the answer. But politicians like to have a 3rd party to blame for price hikes and poor service .

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> Short of China and India voluntarily holding themselves to the same standards as Western Europe and the US China and India emit significantly less CO2 per capita than Western Europe and the US [0] - and that's ignoring the fact they do all of our manufacturing. [0] https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-pe...

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More people live in China and India. Their government is doing a better job at keeping emissions down, per person. Pollution doesn't care where you live.

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Meanwhile in California, PG&E underfunded maintenance, perhaps because regulators squeezed too hard? Eventually we had things like the San Bruno gas explosion and wildfires so bad that PG&E went bankrupt. Finding the optimal amount of regulation seems difficult. It seems like too blunt an instrument. Incentives are no substitute for technical people who want to do what's right.

Government owning the utility would be the answer. But politicians like to have a 3rd party to blame for price hikes and poor service .

I’m unconvinced that a change to new management, government-run or not, would automatically get technically competent people hired and give them the decision-making power to do things right. Sure, it might, but it’s hardly guaranteed.
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