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Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by anon291 »

gambiting wrote: post #46
anon291 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the privacy invading practice of requiring drug stores to check IDs before selling Playboys? I'm sorry, Playboy is way tamer than Pornhub. There's no reason PH should have less strict access requirements. There's no 'right' to access porn anonymously. For goodness' sake, most states monitor your alcohol consumption by tying purchases to your ID!

>>Like the privacy invading practice of requiring drug stores to check IDs before selling Playboys? Wait, is that a thing in the US? Really? >> For goodness' sake, most states monitor your alcohol consumption by tying purchases to your ID! Again, that's a thing in the states? Wow, land of the free indeed.

Yes, several states like Virginia only sell liquor at government-owned stores. Others like Oregon require that liquor stores are separately run, and they'll scan your ID everytime and it'll get sent to the state alcohol bureau.

Of course then you also have states like Louisiana with drive-through Daquiri stores.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by [deleted] »

doggero wrote: post #45
EnergyAmy wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to live in a dystopia, you're free to live somewhere else.

Mandatory age verification for porn sites is dystopian now? I'm guessing you're some sort of pornography addict, if it means that much to you that you whip out this level of hyperbole.

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Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by HDThoreaun »

doggero wrote: post #45
EnergyAmy wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to live in a dystopia, you're free to live somewhere else.

Mandatory age verification for porn sites is dystopian now? I'm guessing you're some sort of pornography addict, if it means that much to you that you whip out this level of hyperbole.

The issue with your idea, other than the obvious free speech stuff, is that it is not possible to stop offshore sites from posting content without an age verification. All this would do is move everyone from onshore sites like pornhub to offshore sites that have zero regulation at all. You dont see how that is worse than the status quo?

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by anon291 »

EnergyAmy wrote: post #49
anon291 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the privacy invading practice of requiring drug stores to check IDs before selling Playboys? I'm sorry, Playboy is way tamer than Pornhub. There's no reason PH should have less strict access requirements. There's no 'right' to access porn anonymously. For goodness' sake, most states monitor your alcohol consumption by tying purchases to your ID!

If all drug stores everywhere colluded to record your ID permanently, the analogy might make sense. There is a right to access porn anonymously if both parties consent. You need to prove that the government has an overriding need to insert itself in the middle.

I'm not sure about Nebraska's law, but the law only states PH acquires proof, not keep a record of the license. That means PornHub could hire people to view the license on a live feed and then click yes / no.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by Atotalnoob »

anon291 wrote: post #48
havblue wrote: post #4

"Nebraska Legislative Bill 1092 went into effect on Friday making it a requirement for sites that show adult content to verify the age of users. This usually means some form of identification needs to be uploaded to the site to confirm the person using the site is 18 or over. " Yeah, just upload your driver's licence to every sketchy site you browse to. What could go wrong? I'm much more in favor of Leisure Suit Larr…

Ideally, what ought to happen is the government sets up a system with cryptographic key pairs in a government database. Adults go to a drug store / grocery store / whoever participates and is licensed to do this. The store clerk checks your ID. If you're an adult, they will give you a public key. The public key comes in an envelope that has been sealed at a government facility. No one can see it until you open the en…

What happened to privacy? Now the government knows all about my shopping habits…

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by anon291 »

Atotalnoob wrote: post #55
anon291 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ideally, what ought to happen is the government sets up a system with cryptographic key pairs in a government database. Adults go to a drug store / grocery store / whoever participates and is licensed to do this. The store clerk checks your ID. If you're an adult, they will give you a public key. The public key comes in an envelope that has been sealed at a government facility. No one can see it until you open the en…

What happened to privacy? Now the government knows all about my shopping habits…

At what point of my proposal did the government keep track of shopping habits. The government issues cards to stores; kind of like transit cards at grocery stores.

In my city of Portland, if you want a youth transit card you have to show proof you're a kid. Or if you want a senior one, proof you're over 65.

Still, the government doesn't actually know who you are. It's just a number. The number is similarly hidden until you open the package. I don't think anyone could track it.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by tennisflyi »

nonameiguess wrote: post #29

So I'm in Texas and Pornhub already did the same thing here. What I don't get is all of the studio and professional aggregator sites that have existed for 30 years, well before user-generated video platforms were a thing, still operate in Texas. They use exactly the same age verification they've always used. Click yes on a splash screen before you can see free preview content, and submit a credit card to see paid con…

BRCC/ECG explicitly make you provide ID

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by EnergyAmy »

doggero wrote: post #45
EnergyAmy wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to live in a dystopia, you're free to live somewhere else.

Mandatory age verification for porn sites is dystopian now? I'm guessing you're some sort of pornography addict, if it means that much to you that you whip out this level of hyperbole.

Yes, surveillance is a classic element of dystopia. I don't consume pornography, nor do I drink or do many other things that I realize the government shouldn't have a say in, because I am capable of reasoning.

Do you have anything other than accusations to contribute to the conversation?

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by tennisflyi »

doggero wrote: post #25
wkat4242 wrote: post #16

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The thing is, age verification that consists of more than a simple button of "yes I'm over 18" is privacy intrusive. Who wants to register as a porn viewer? Especially in the US where this is stigmatised.

It's stigmatized for good reason. The amount of abuse within the pornography industry is immense. Anyone with any decent of ethics would refrain from consuming this material.

Disagree. Industry porn isn’t perfect but real abuse comes from content that is sexual but not porn with a 2257 and consent/a “no list”

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by ideasp »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #53
doggero wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mandatory age verification for porn sites is dystopian now? I'm guessing you're some sort of pornography addict, if it means that much to you that you whip out this level of hyperbole.

The issue with your idea, other than the obvious free speech stuff, is that it is not possible to stop offshore sites from posting content without an age verification. All this would do is move everyone from onshore sites like pornhub to offshore sites that have zero regulation at all. You dont see how that is worse than the status quo?

There are plenty of solutions for that already in place. Child sex abuse sites get blocked, for example. Even forums like Kiwi Farms have carriers blackholing them.

No reason why this can't be similarly enforced for porn sites that skirt the age verification rules.

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