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Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by anon291 »

explodes wrote: post #26
doggero wrote: post #20

This is good news. Here's hoping for a federal law that makes age verification for pornographic content a requirement across all states. There's no reason why these sites shouldn't shoulder their share of the responsibility to prevent children from accessing this content. It's really quite telling that Pornhub is removing itself from all markets where it's mandated to do this. Like all dealers of addictive and abusiv…

There are a million other ways to access it. I don't know how introducing privacy invading practices could end up as a net good.

Like the privacy invading practice of requiring drug stores to check IDs before selling Playboys?

I'm sorry, Playboy is way tamer than Pornhub. There's no reason PH should have less strict access requirements. There's no 'right' to access porn anonymously. For goodness' sake, most states monitor your alcohol consumption by tying purchases to your ID!

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by havblue »

wkat4242 wrote: post #21
nielsbot wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I clicked absentmindedly.. luckily it seems mostly harmless.

Would you really have been permanently damaged if it were a porn site? :) I think it's very funny by the way :) Love the idea

Corn Hub: "The Internet is for Corn."

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by EnergyAmy »

doggero wrote: post #25
wkat4242 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing is, age verification that consists of more than a simple button of "yes I'm over 18" is privacy intrusive. Who wants to register as a porn viewer? Especially in the US where this is stigmatised.

It's stigmatized for good reason. The amount of abuse within the pornography industry is immense. Anyone with any decent of ethics would refrain from consuming this material.

The amount of abuse within tech companies is immense. Should we shut down the tech industry?

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by EnergyAmy »

doggero wrote: post #20

This is good news. Here's hoping for a federal law that makes age verification for pornographic content a requirement across all states. There's no reason why these sites shouldn't shoulder their share of the responsibility to prevent children from accessing this content. It's really quite telling that Pornhub is removing itself from all markets where it's mandated to do this. Like all dealers of addictive and abusiv…

If you want to live in a dystopia, you're free to live somewhere else.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by doggero »

EnergyAmy wrote: post #44
doggero wrote: post #20

This is good news. Here's hoping for a federal law that makes age verification for pornographic content a requirement across all states. There's no reason why these sites shouldn't shoulder their share of the responsibility to prevent children from accessing this content. It's really quite telling that Pornhub is removing itself from all markets where it's mandated to do this. Like all dealers of addictive and abusiv…

If you want to live in a dystopia, you're free to live somewhere else.

Mandatory age verification for porn sites is dystopian now?

I'm guessing you're some sort of pornography addict, if it means that much to you that you whip out this level of hyperbole.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by gambiting »

anon291 wrote: post #41
explodes wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a million other ways to access it. I don't know how introducing privacy invading practices could end up as a net good.

Like the privacy invading practice of requiring drug stores to check IDs before selling Playboys? I'm sorry, Playboy is way tamer than Pornhub. There's no reason PH should have less strict access requirements. There's no 'right' to access porn anonymously. For goodness' sake, most states monitor your alcohol consumption by tying purchases to your ID!

>>Like the privacy invading practice of requiring drug stores to check IDs before selling Playboys?

Wait, is that a thing in the US? Really?

>> For goodness' sake, most states monitor your alcohol consumption by tying purchases to your ID!

Again, that's a thing in the states? Wow, land of the free indeed.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by HDThoreaun »

nonameiguess wrote: post #29

So I'm in Texas and Pornhub already did the same thing here. What I don't get is all of the studio and professional aggregator sites that have existed for 30 years, well before user-generated video platforms were a thing, still operate in Texas. They use exactly the same age verification they've always used. Click yes on a splash screen before you can see free preview content, and submit a credit card to see paid con…

My understanding is that every site other than pornhub is just ignoring the law and either hoping the state doesnt come after them or just operating offshore where the state has no jurisdiction.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by anon291 »

havblue wrote: post #4

"Nebraska Legislative Bill 1092 went into effect on Friday making it a requirement for sites that show adult content to verify the age of users. This usually means some form of identification needs to be uploaded to the site to confirm the person using the site is 18 or over. " Yeah, just upload your driver's licence to every sketchy site you browse to. What could go wrong? I'm much more in favor of Leisure Suit Larr…

Ideally, what ought to happen is the government sets up a system with cryptographic key pairs in a government database.

Adults go to a drug store / grocery store / whoever participates and is licensed to do this. The store clerk checks your ID. If you're an adult, they will give you a public key. The public key comes in an envelope that has been sealed at a government facility. No one can see it until you open the envelope. You can obtain as many of these as you want (you have to pay the cost of the printing / stationary / program admin costs at the time of purchase).

To go on pornhub, you need to type in the public key. Porn hub encodes a message with the key and sends to the government database to get a yes / no.

Governments can prosecute any store that gives out keys to minors (like with alcohol).

Governments can prosecute porn sites that do not adhere to this protocol.

This is good because it provides a lot of points where bad actors may fall afoul of the law, and these bad actors were probably the same types going to commit otehr crimes anyway.

But the truth is, this will never happen, because sites like PornHub are not interested in keeping minors off. They want to get young kids (boys mostly, although I hear girls are getting more amenable) addicted to their porn.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by EnergyAmy »

anon291 wrote: post #41
explodes wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a million other ways to access it. I don't know how introducing privacy invading practices could end up as a net good.

Like the privacy invading practice of requiring drug stores to check IDs before selling Playboys? I'm sorry, Playboy is way tamer than Pornhub. There's no reason PH should have less strict access requirements. There's no 'right' to access porn anonymously. For goodness' sake, most states monitor your alcohol consumption by tying purchases to your ID!

If all drug stores everywhere colluded to record your ID permanently, the analogy might make sense.

There is a right to access porn anonymously if both parties consent. You need to prove that the government has an overriding need to insert itself in the middle.

Re: Pornhub Pulls Out of Nebraska

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

EnergyAmy wrote: post #49
anon291 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like the privacy invading practice of requiring drug stores to check IDs before selling Playboys? I'm sorry, Playboy is way tamer than Pornhub. There's no reason PH should have less strict access requirements. There's no 'right' to access porn anonymously. For goodness' sake, most states monitor your alcohol consumption by tying purchases to your ID!

If all drug stores everywhere colluded to record your ID permanently, the analogy might make sense. There is a right to access porn anonymously if both parties consent. You need to prove that the government has an overriding need to insert itself in the middle.

If porn was like drugs, the analogy might make sense.

(If you make that equivalence, you're off the reservation. Or have never done drugs. What's next, video games cause school shootings, Mrs. Gore?)

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