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"Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by shadesandcolour »

cageface wrote: post #43
doron wrote: post #3

ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. [EDIT] I have been an android user since it was essentially released, and have only recently swi…

Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. Yes, but how important is this really in practice? With both platforms approaching maturity deploying major OS updates OTA is going to be less important. Google can ride the natural device upgrade cycle to get out new versions. If they can make the browser and email client and a few other key apps…

No, they can't ride the natural device upgrade cycle to get out new versions because there is no requirement for new devices to install the newest version. Apple on the other hand, can ride the device upgrade cycle because when you go pick up a new phone at the Apple store it is running the newest version of the operating system, and the features get rolled out to everyone.

I would argue that as new features in newer versions of operating systems become more and more of a spectacle that people everywhere, not just geeks are watching, Pushing major OS updates becomes more and more important.

If you're going to show off a new feature to the world, it's nice if most people can actually get at it.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by dagw »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #46
doron wrote: post #3

ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. [EDIT] I have been an android user since it was essentially released, and have only recently swi…

>ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. There are two kinds of Android users in this world - those who care about this issue, and those…

why buy any Android phone other than a Nexus variant straight from Google

Because the Nexus has been getting pretty mediocre reviews and none of the Nexus variants really interest me from a hardware point of view.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by doron »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #46
doron wrote: post #3

ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. [EDIT] I have been an android user since it was essentially released, and have only recently swi…

>ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. There are two kinds of Android users in this world - those who care about this issue, and those…

This segmentation for two kinds of Android users is exactly the problem. If you are an IOS user, whether a poweruser or not, you will get the latest upgrade and a range of new features by default. This delights users, they don't have to care about the issue to be satisfied with the device.

Perhaps I am lazy, perhaps I am somewhere in between those two archetypes you mention. I want to hold the device i buy before i buy it, as such i need to go to my provider store and see it, dare i say, touch it. This fact alone eliminates the option of seeing the nexus variant.

You don't have to follow the Techrags or details to want the latest and greatest.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by bmelton »

zdouglas wrote: post #39
doron wrote: post #3

ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. [EDIT] I have been an android user since it was essentially released, and have only recently swi…

> _I just want a device that works, and upgrades easily._ As a loyal TMo G2 (stock Froyo) owner, I wholeheartedly agree with that opinion. As other replies called out, TMo has a knack for luring you in and never releasing OS updates. That said, I'm very happy running my "legacy" Froyo OS: My GPS is fast and spot-on, data pipe is 4G-wide, and my bit-laggy camera app is supplemented by dedicated hardware for anything c…

I agree with that statement about Tmobile, but if you just stick with the reference devices (G1, Nexus, Nexus S, Nexus Galaxy,) you get all the updates from Google as they're released.

I've stuck with the Google reference models since the G1, and while I'm usually behind on "what's new" (I'm currently on a Nexus S, while the Nexus Galaxy has been out for awhile now), my wife is constantly buying the 'new' Android hotness, and is perennially jealous of my phone, even when it's older and has less features.

I get the software updates faster, everything works, and nothing has been mucked with, ala Blur or whatever. Meanwhile her phone is dual core, has HDMI out, and is better on paper, but crashes often, becomes unresponsive and lags on Android updates.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by shadesandcolour »

DominikR wrote: post #40

Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I can see not a single feature that is compared in this article is exclusive to ICS. Those features are also available on 2.2 and 2.3, so the whole discussion about "ICS is vaporware" is irrelevant when talking about those features.

I guess when you call 3rd party apps that implement things features it's a little hard to tie things to one operating system version...

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by 27182818284 »

mladenkovacevic wrote: post #48
phsr wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hell, the 3GS is getting iOS 6. What 3 year old Android phone will get ICS? Like you said, I'm guessing not many if any at all. Agreeing with your point, Android is heavily fragmented, with phone manufacturers having the final say on which software gets deployed to their phones. Many of them are going to use new OS version to force software upgrades

What does this mean? iOS6? What is ICS? (don't answer those questions.. I know what ICS is) My point is the average user isn't sitting there with their Galaxy-Titan-whatever in their hands feverishly checking what version of Android they're running and yelling "Where is my ICS!!" They're posting to Facebook, emailing, tweeting, searching for restaurants..etc It's all about features.. and the fact is that iOS6 is catc…

No, of course not, but they do see me do something on ICS that you can't otherwise do and they say, "Wait a minute? I thought you had Android. You do? Then why can't I do that!" followed by frustration and anger.

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by myko »

manmal wrote: post #9
doron wrote: post #3

ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. [EDIT] I have been an android user since it was essentially released, and have only recently swi…

iOS 6 will even come to 3GS :)

Yes, but Siri wont, 3D maps wont. If the main features of the update don't make it to the device, what's your point?

edit: the -> your (I know the point of updating the 3GS, I don't understand the OPs point in its attempt to mock Android)

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by mtgx »

This article seems relevant to the discussion, too:

http://blog.bestvendor.com/2012/06/did-apple-steal-these-ios...

I've noticed that over the past couple of years, Apple has kept "stealing" the functionality of very popular apps from the App Store (starting with iBooks, and then others).

Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"

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Post by Kylekramer »

doron wrote: post #53
SkyMarshal wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. There are two kinds of Android users in this world - those who care about this issue, and those…

This segmentation for two kinds of Android users is exactly the problem. If you are an IOS user, whether a poweruser or not, you will get the latest upgrade and a range of new features by default. This delights users, they don't have to care about the issue to be satisfied with the device. Perhaps I am lazy, perhaps I am somewhere in between those two archetypes you mention. I want to hold the device i buy before i b…

Looking at the big red 1 on both my parents' iPhones' Settings app (not mention the much higher numbers on the App Store app) when I visited them this weekend, I imagine the same segmentation exist on iOS. Different proportions and easier upgradability on iOS, but the basic idea is the same on both platforms. If you want updates, you are able to get them. If not, and most don't, it is no loss to anyone but developers and security.
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