There appears to be a lot of discussion about market penetration of the two operating systems. This is a separate discussion. The author is comparing the new iOS functionality to that present on ICS.
"Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"
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Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"
#32I have an iPhone 4S (Work) and an unlocked Samsung Galaxy S II (Personal - EU version with the physical button) and I am still to receive the ICS update here stateside!
By the time iOS6 is released to users, there will be many a people with Android phones who wouldn't have received ICS updates for their phone!
Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's hard to compare getting ICS on legacy phones to getting iOS 6 on your iPhone 4S. Of course, first gen Android devices aren't going to be able to run ICS, but neither will first gen iOS devices. iOS 6 is not going to be on the original iPad, the original iPhone or the iPhone 3G.
None of the Apple devices that you mentioned are sold at retail anymore. How many Android devices that are being sold in stores can't get access to the latest operating system update?
The Galaxy Note still ships with 2.3. That's not just available but pretty high profile.
A quick look round a random sample from one of the big high street dealers here in the UK shows that a fair number are still shipping with 2.3.
Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"
#34I'll answer this completely fanboyish article with a slightly fanboyish response.
First of all, just because ICS had it "first" doesn't mean that they did it better.
Let's add the fact that the feature being present in the operating system doesn't gauntness that Android users will get it on their phones like it does when Apple adds something to the operating system (with a few exceptions).
Counting your "3rd party apps" (which apple really had first, two can play at this game) as features of the operating system just doesn't count. I don't care that apps can add functionality to the operating system. If it isn't there by default, it doesn't count as a feature. Claiming that a 3rd party app offers the same functionality as passbook for instance, is moot because 3rd party apps on the iPhone could do the exact same thing.
Please don't compare your crappy voice actions or other skin specific implementations to Siri. She doesn't always work, but when she does, it's better than yours.
Yes email on iOS has been lacking a little bit. Doesn't make it any less of a feature when things get added to the email client.
I'm shocked that the author waited until the very end of the post to mention "glanceable widgets" since this seems like it's the champion of all Android users since it's really their "killer feature." Be that as it may, call your HTC One X more powerfull all you want, when it comes to platform integration and ease of use, the iPhone is still the king.
Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably because functionality is what counts. who cares how you get there? and one of the upsides of Android having open development is that features will get built in more rapidly via third parties.
If your phone is running the right version. Which you don't get to decide. People care "how they get there" when the phone they purchased a month ago can't run a cool new app because the manufacturer or their network provider decided they should be using a 2 year old version of android and that upgrades are not allowed.
This is true. My perception of android is definitely affected by the fact that I have a rooted phone and run CM - but for the general populace they'll never be able to take advantage of most things. Which is really unfortunate.
Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"
#36There appears to be a lot of discussion about market penetration of the two operating systems. This is a separate discussion. The author is comparing the new iOS functionality to that present on ICS.
People continue (and chances are will continue) to make the market penetration argument for the following reason:
If the feature exists, but no one can use it, does it really exist?
Claiming that Android had a feature first doesn't mean anything to the consumer who can't get that feature on their device. Compared to iOS where announced features show up on most devices and on every new device that you buy in the store the very same day.
Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's hard to compare getting ICS on legacy phones to getting iOS 6 on your iPhone 4S. Of course, first gen Android devices aren't going to be able to run ICS, but neither will first gen iOS devices. iOS 6 is not going to be on the original iPad, the original iPhone or the iPhone 3G.
My coworker just purchased a new Android phone. It's on Android 2.x. Meanwhile, the iPhone 3GS is about to get iOS6. Chances are iOS6 will have a higher percentage of iOS users than ICS of Android users after the first day or so.
Chances are that iOS 6 already has a higher percentage than ICS today ;)
Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably because functionality is what counts. who cares how you get there? and one of the upsides of Android having open development is that features will get built in more rapidly via third parties.
"Oh, so your 10.4 has indexed search and Expose? Well look at what my pimped XP can do.." "So you have hardware accelerated video filters? Well look at what I can fetch, hack and compile my Gentoo into.." I'm not saying Android is bad, but this znet post is just stupid, sorry. Apple has never really been a big inventor of new technologies (apart from industrial design), but integrating existing ideas as good as possi…
> Apple has never really been a big inventor of new technologies
Personally, I consider the iPad and iPhone way more than just industrial design.
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#39ICS ecosystem is almost vaporware, it is supposed to be the best release yet, but i actually never saw it. Maybe its the best thing since sliced bread, but if nobody uses it, what exactly is the point?! Your chances of getting ICS on your legacy device are virtually zero. whereas getting IOS 6 on the iphone 4S is assured. [EDIT] I have been an android user since it was essentially released, and have only recently swi…
> _I just want a device that works, and upgrades easily._
As a loyal TMo G2 (stock Froyo) owner, I wholeheartedly agree with that opinion. As other replies called out, TMo has a knack for luring you in and never releasing OS updates.
That said, I'm very happy running my "legacy" Froyo OS: My GPS is fast and spot-on, data pipe is 4G-wide, and my bit-laggy camera app is supplemented by dedicated hardware for anything cleaner than "LOL quality."
Re: "Android ICS already offers more than what is coming in iOS 6"
#40Please correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I can see not a single feature that is compared in this article is exclusive to ICS.
Those features are also available on 2.2 and 2.3, so the whole discussion about "ICS is vaporware" is irrelevant when talking about those features.