Google's Gemini AI caught scanning Google Drive PDF files without permission

Post by crazygringo » Mon, Jul 15, 2024, 8:25 PM UTC

vouaobrasil wrote: post #147

crazygringo wrote: post #140

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Again, that's like saying you don't want any results from spell-check. OK, sure. But then just don't use it. The problem is that you're calling for a legal policy against it to be "mandatory, enforced, and come with strict fines". Have your own personal preferences, that's great. But I don't want you imposing your preferences on the products I use. I want companies and the market to decide. An auto-summary feature th…

I don't want YOUR increasing use of AI to make a world where everyone is forced to use AI in their jobs and lives because it brings short-term business benefits.

Post by intern4tional » Mon, Jul 15, 2024, 11:12 PM UTC

dylan604 wrote: post #132

shadowgovt wrote: post #129

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The thing that makes it possible for search to be fast is pre-crawling and pre-indexing. Some other engines don't do this, and the difference is remarkabe. Try a full-content search in Windows 7, you'll be staring at the dialog for two minutes while it tries to find a file that's in the same directory as you started the search in.

You said nothing about fast in your original though, so now you've moved the goal posts

Post by whateven54 » Tue, Jul 16, 2024, 12:41 AM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #140

vouaobrasil wrote: post #138

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> It's literally just running an algorithm over your data and spitting out the results for you. I don't want any results from AI. I don't even want to see them. And there is too much of a grey area. What if they use how I use the results to improve their AI. I hate AI also and want nothing to do with its automations. If I want a document summarized, I will read it myself. I still want to be human and do things AT A R…

Again, that's like saying you don't want any results from spell-check. OK, sure. But then just don't use it. The problem is that you're calling for a legal policy against it to be "mandatory, enforced, and come with strict fines". Have your own personal preferences, that's great. But I don't want you imposing your preferences on the products I use. I want companies and the market to decide. An auto-summary feature th…

Post by greycol » Tue, Jul 16, 2024, 9:57 PM UTC

shadowgovt wrote: post #9

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #2

Just reiterates that you don't own your data hosted on cloud providers; this time there's a clear sign, but I can guarantee that google's systems read and aggregated data inside your private docs ages ago. This concern was first raised when Gmail started, 20 years ago now; at the time people reeled at the idea of "google reads your emails to give you ads", but at the same time the 1 GB inbox and fresh UI was a compel…

Of course Google reads and aggregates data inside your private docs. How would it provide search over your documents otherwise?

Post by hulitu » Wed, Jul 17, 2024, 9:43 AM UTC

Aurornis wrote: post #11

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #2

Just reiterates that you don't own your data hosted on cloud providers; this time there's a clear sign, but I can guarantee that google's systems read and aggregated data inside your private docs ages ago. This concern was first raised when Gmail started, 20 years ago now; at the time people reeled at the idea of "google reads your emails to give you ads", but at the same time the 1 GB inbox and fresh UI was a compel…

> but I can guarantee that google's systems read and aggregated data inside your private docs ages ago That is how search works, yes. But if you’re trying to imply that everyone’s private data was scraped and loaded into their LLM, then no, that’s obviously a conspiracy theory. It’s incredible to me that people think Google has convinced tens of thousands of engineers to quietly keep secret an epic conspiracy theory…