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Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by fluidcruft »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #101
spot wrote: post #6

looks like a lot of catchup with android. from maps to sharing to video chat to reply with text message to offline browsing, android has all of this. competition is a wonderful thing. this is the right way to do it (not with a lawsuit)

Easy reply messages / reminders accessible when you have an incoming call? Passbook? (this one is huge)

> Easy reply messages / reminders accessible when you have an incoming call?

Reply via text has been a popular feature in custom Android ROMs for a while. Setting a reminder is new to me, though.

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by jsz0 »

Watabou wrote: post #4
wavephorm wrote: post #2

iOS 6 is not compatible with: iPad 1 Damnit, did I just have an aneurism? Seriously, the iPad 1 isn't old (or doesn't feel old to me), and it came out around the same time as the iPod touch 4th generation, which is supported. I'm really getting sick of this "throw-away hardware" culture that Apple is enforcing.

And yet the 3GS is supported. I think I'm right in saying that almost no one would have worried too much if Apple had dropped the 3GS too. They would have understood that the 3GS wouldn't be able to run the latest and greatest iOS. The fact that they are supporting the 3GS and not iPad 1 is surprising.

The iPad 1 has the same 256MB of RAM but it has to allocate more than double the amount of space towards VRAM than a 3GS. Also in general iPad applications have a larger memory footprint than iPhone applications. Those two factors combined pretty much doomed it. Most importantly Apple just decided to starve it of RAM. Very bad design choice.

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Post by timjahn »

kylebrown wrote: post #91
MatthewPhillips wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has been in HTML for almost 2 years now. Rather than being a step forward foe the mobile web, it shows how behind the mobile web is, as the two most dominant players in mobile only update their browsers once a year. I'm guessing iOS6 doesn't add support for IndexedDB either. So we're stuck using the deprecated WebSQL until mid 2013 or later.

Didn't realize until just now what a pain it is to post photos on craigslist, etc: take photo with camera/phone, sync with laptop, use laptop to post photo. That's probably the reason Instagram had traction. Is this already easy on Android?

There are Craigslist apps out there that work great. I used Craigslist Mobile last week (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/craigslist-mobile-photo-previ...) to post a bunch of stuff without leaving my phone. Was super easy to use and fast.

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Post by methodin »

I find it strange, but perhaps I'm just missing some crucial, that it appears as if this update is really just app updates for ios? I do not own any ios device but I normally expect some updates to the OS itself in some capacity. Am I reading this list wrong?

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Post by bjustin »

wavephorm wrote: post #2

iOS 6 is not compatible with: iPad 1 Damnit, did I just have an aneurism? Seriously, the iPad 1 isn't old (or doesn't feel old to me), and it came out around the same time as the iPod touch 4th generation, which is supported. I'm really getting sick of this "throw-away hardware" culture that Apple is enforcing.

The iPad 1 is more than two years old, so is not supported in upcoming OS versions. Every iOS devices has been updated only two major OS versions so far; it looks like the 3GS will be the first to beat this trend with three major OS updates from iOS 3, but has the advantage of a rather low resolution screen needing less memory for graphics.

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Post by WrkInProgress »

MBCook wrote: post #106
revscat wrote: post #43

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Yeah, this stuck out to me as well, more than pretty much anything else they announced this morning. This has the potential to be quite a large piece of their ecosystem. If they do it like they have done with iCloud -- starting out with a few applications, then expand its functionality later -- then it could be quite interesting.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Android has a lot of features. Turn by turn directions? Android has had it for years. Notifications? Android first. Video calls over cellular? Android apps did that. But Passport, that's a fantastic feature. Adding in the geofencing (so my airline ticket shows up when I get to the airport) is genius . But more than anything else, you know that everyone is going to integrate into th…

Some of the ideas behind passport are available in other apps or on other platforms. Windows Phone 7.5 has something very similar for boarding passes/departure information via live tiles.

The downsides to the Windows Phone approach is that it's for specific apps and specific airlines.

What do you mean by "Android apps can't easily fill that space, because they'll all have different standards." ?

Passport looks very similar to part of the features already available in things like Google Wallet and Square's Card Case.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that this doesn't have the potential to be great for Apple, iPhone users, retailers, and iOS app developers ....

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Post by jaxn »

fluidcruft wrote: post #111
wahnfrieden wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easy reply messages / reminders accessible when you have an incoming call? Passbook? (this one is huge)

> Easy reply messages / reminders accessible when you have an incoming call? Reply via text has been a popular feature in custom Android ROMs for a while. Setting a reminder is new to me, though.

Reply via text was a key feature on Palm Treo a decade ago. I believe Blackberry too.

The reminder looks very cool. I use iOS reminders every day. Often with location info too.

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Post by fpgeek »

fluidcruft wrote: post #111
wahnfrieden wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easy reply messages / reminders accessible when you have an incoming call? Passbook? (this one is huge)

> Easy reply messages / reminders accessible when you have an incoming call? Reply via text has been a popular feature in custom Android ROMs for a while. Setting a reminder is new to me, though.

Ironically, those "copyists" Samsung and HTC had "reject call with text" in their Gingerbread editions of TouchWiz and Sense (I'm not sure about earlier skins since I haven't used them), even before Google added it to ICS. I'm sure both are kicking themselves that they didn't try to patent it (though I suppose patents move slowly, so maybe they have).

Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by [deleted] »

harrylove wrote: post #95
ryannielsen wrote: post #59

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Without any software upgrades ever, the iPad will become the future IE. In fact, this is worse because of Apple's closed system they also won't allow 3rd parties to upgrade the software either. Huh? Citation needed. Apple didn't suddenly cut off App Store updates to iPad 1. Developers are free to support (or not support) iOS 5, just as they were with other iOS updates. Furthermore, are you remotely surprised by this?…

> How many Android users are stuck on 2.2 or 2.3, with a horribly crippled browser? The answer is: most of them. ~90.2% are on Android 2.3 or below as of June 1, 2012[1]. [1] http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-ve...

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Re: Apple iOS6 Preview

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Post by neilparikh »

Anyone know when the iOS 6 SDK will be released to non-paying developers? I'm not enrolled in the developer program, as I have no intention of publishing an app to the app store at the moment, but I'd like to play around with the new APIs.
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